I’m so sick and tired of the 80/20 rule

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“Women only like men who are 6 feet tall”

“If your cock is not at least 7 inches, it’s over”

“Only the top 10% are having sex”

Holy shit, STOP THE COPE. No, it’s not only the fucking top 10% that are having sex. You are delusional and overdosing on major cope. You create this false fucking reality inside your head JUST TO cope with the fact that you’re still a virgin. “Since I’m not having sex, I might as well go to random online forums and bitch about how it’s everyone else’s fault and not me having shit genetics.” Don’t get me wrong, obviously women have insanely high standards in today’s society. The female version of me is right now having sex with someone way out of her league. My fucking subhuman cousin still looks like the most disgusting vile chick I’ve ever seen even with ten pounds of makeup and yet, she’s still having sex because men fuck anything since we’re all deep down starving for affection and need to be loved desperately. I believe in hypergamy, 100%, but what I don’t believe is the sense that life is only good for the top 10%. It’s not. Life is only bad for the ones who were born in the BOTTOM 10% including myself. I’d say about 40% or maybe even 50% of the men I see on a day to day basis are relatively good looking or at least healthy looking enough to be fuckable.

Reasons for your virginity:

Ugliness, shortness, autism and other sources of mental illness.

ANYthing else is cope.

You can blame the world until the cows come home and you can blame how it’s you being 6’1” and not 6’2” that is the reason for your inceldom but know that the truest of trucels don’t even bother complaining about any of this because they know it’s pointless and won’t help them solve anything regarding their subhumanity.

Usually when I see someone with an “it’s only the top 10% that are having sex” ideology, I just immediately realize that he’s just another fakecel and failed normie.

This might’ve been my first controversial take here and I’m sorry for that, but I just needed to get it out.

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[–]greybeard 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Average (up to top-60%) guys still get sex occasionally, but they have to work much much harder for much less sex than top-10%. While unfortunate, this is nowhere near as bad as bottom 20% guys who have pretty low chance of ever experiencing love

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

When foids talk among themselves, they do say that they want only someone above 6 feet and that only a cock of at least 8 inches will satisfy them. Now we know that this combo is statistically rare, so they obviously settle for less, and I doubt their vagina can take 8 full inches on a daily basis. Yes, that's 8 and not 7, because that's what foids here say is the absolute minimum they can settle for.

However, I do believe that the 80/20 rule is close to the truth. Maybe it's not exactly 80 and 20, and there's a grey zone of men trying desperately to score or using escorts, but I see really a lot of men struggling with such issues. And yes, they have perfectly good genetics, however female expectations are very specific.

I was also surprised to read the description of your cousin. I thought the vice police would flog her on the spot, according to what the media say about life in Iran. In any case, the men who fuck her probably fall into a specific category of desperate men who are prepared to do anything so they can score and usually women take advantage of it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Obviously, yes, women ‘prefer’ the top 10% and I never said that they didn’t, I’m just out here laughing my ass off at how some people in these communities cope with thinking that it’s only the top 10% of men that are having sex. Greybeard did a very solid explanation, couldn’t have said it better myself.

according to what the media say about life in Iran

Yeah, just fucking straight up LOL if you actually believe in ANY source of western media that talks about Iran especially the ones that cover the news like BBC.

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

some people in these communities cope with thinking that it’s only the top 10% of men that are having sex

That's obviously absurd and I agree that some people in those communities have been affected so deeply that they will say things like that. I would say that the 80/20 rule still applies, like 80 women going after 20 men and a percentage of them settling unenthusiastically for another 20 men, then 20 men being prepared to do anything for the 20 women that remain. That leaves about 40 men, which I think agrees with some statistics that I have seen lately. I would say it agrees with much of what I see around as well.

I have to ask, how is Persepolis (the movie and the graphic novel which were a huge success in the West) viewed in Iran? Was there a point where things suddenly changed compared to what is depicted in the novel, and is the novel even seen as a true representation of the events and the society? You don't have to answer if this might cause you any trouble.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Persepolis

I don’t even know what that is. If it shows a different lifestyle before and after our revolution, then it’s most likely true.

You don't have to answer if this might cause you any trouble.

Why would it cause me any trouble my man? Lmao. Is the movie like heavily political and shit? Usually I try to avoid anything politics related in games and movies as hard as I can, especially in today’s day and age with everything that’s going on so not sure if I’m willing to give it a watch. Nothing wrong with them though.

Orwell said the idea of politics not being involved in any form of art (a novel, movie, painting, etc.) is considered a political opinion itself. Based fucking author, I swear to God, that guy. Highly recommend reading his shit, especially his not so popular ones like A Collection of Essays or A Clergyman’s Daughter if you’re into reading stuff of course.

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, the novel (and movie) show the different lifestyle before and after the revolution, and I don't know whether this is a thorny subject in your country. Media present things in a certain light and wouldn't want to get you into any difficult position.

Actually I'm still astonished that women there can freely act slutty. It's a bit difficult to digest after all that is implied or told about the situation there.

I agree that Orwell's not so popular writings are incredibly thought provoking, I haven't read the last title but I have read some of his less known works.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Based then, I might watch it but no promises. Like I said, generally not into political movies especially animated ones.

I don't know whether this is a thorny subject in your country

Eh. My people go ball mode over anything, of course being reminded of a better economy before the revolution is gonna upset them. Don’t really care all that much myself tbh. I just try to Tylerdurdenmaxx and live inside my own fiction land and escape reality as much as possible.

Actually I'm still astonished that women there can freely act slutty. It's a bit difficult to digest after all that is implied or told about the situation there.

I’m sorry brocel. Like I’ve said it before, westerncels cope with thinking things are different here. They’re not. You’ve said you’re not from US, if you don’t mind me asking, where are you from?

I agree that Orwell's not so popular writings are incredibly thought provoking, I haven't read the last title but I have read some of his less known works.

Glad you dig novels brocel! What do you usually read? Right now I’m trying to finish The Catcher in the Rye. Feel free to let me know and I can hit ya up with some solid recommendations if you want.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am from Greece, where things used to be traditional as well some time ago. Or maybe a long time ago now that I think about it.

I haven't read a lot lately, but I used to read lots of classic works and men's fiction. I would like to read the Sea of Fertility tetralogy at some point. Currently I intend to read Welcome to the NHK.

[–]yabbit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Weird post brocel the 80/20 rule is getting worse if anything. Male sexlessness is so high entire nations are collapsing. Chad harems and polygamy are the norm. 50% of men are virgins and those are the ones admitting it. And you used an ugly femoid as a way to demonstrate the falsehood of hypergamy? Very sus analysis Alessio.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Shit I knew you’d be hating it as soon as even the idea of writing such a post struck me. Like I said my man, controversial take.

Male sexlessness is so high entire nations are collapsing.

Not really, according to stats, male virginity among adult men (18 and above) is only 30% but in incel communities, they want you to believe that it’s far more than that.

And you used an ugly femoid as a way to demonstrate the falsehood of hypergamy?

When did I say that? You’re missing my point. I said I hate how lots of incels cope with saying only 10% of men are having sex which is obviously not true.

One thing I appreciate a lot in the blackpill community and what strikes me as fancy is actually having the balls to face the facts and reality and this whole 80/20 rule ruins it for me.

50% of men are virgins

That’s not true lmao. There’s no confirmation. Again, to me this is all just cope made by oldercels than us to cover all of our failure.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

only 30%

Even then, the number is very high. Add those using escorts or "getting lucky" after lots of begging and simping, which is even worse, and the number get even higher.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why are you tired because of it? Like, you experienced it for years, I take it for granted and not even think about it. It looks like you live still with hope, that's kinda bad.

We are ugly and that's it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Like, you experienced it for years

I’ve experienced being born in the bottom 10% not not being born in the top 10%. My life is shit due to being a genetic failure. I know for a FACT if I was an average looking guy, I wouldn’t be here but I’m not.

It looks like you live still with hope, that's kinda bad.

I can guarantee you, I don’t.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’ve experienced being born in the bottom 10% not not being born in the top 10%.

That's what I am saying. You experienced being at the bottom just as I did, you saw other succeed, you saw that average people even had it, thus I think after such time it's kind a obvious to get used to that.

My life is shit due to being a genetic failure. I know for a FACT if I was an average looking guy, I wouldn’t be here but I’m not.

I thought that too, I grinded with my weight, muscles, bf, money. I am relatively tall (5'11-6'0 at good days) but it's not enough BECAUSE I suck at being NT and I am severely fucked mentally. It's not like you need to be average at one to succeed, you need to be atleast average in EVERY aspect. That's the issue. Tall guy with good money and good face but autistic and depressed is literally a subhuman, even when he has 90% of shit at 80th percentile, when someone with everything average will succeed. That's the issue.

I can guarantee you, I don’t.

You seem bothered by stuff that is being said by others, it seems like external stuff which is hateful towards us strikes you and that coping annoys you - based on your posts. But that's all we have left. Like, I don't talk to people at all at this point, this place is my only contact with reality. I am not a participant od this world.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Holy shit, STOP THE COPE. No, it’s not only the fucking top 10% that are having sex. You are delusional and overdosing on major cope. You create this false fucking reality inside your head JUST TO cope with the fact that you’re still a virgin.

Sounds like coping is bad thing. We clearly realize that nor just 10% have sex, although amount of money, time and shittest you need to do for that is hilarious. Even if that would be 40%, so what? I clearly realize it's like that, but it doesn't help me manage with my life. Should I just act like a sad fuck because foods are pathetic? Nope.

Since I’m not having sex, I might as well go to random online forums and bitch about how it’s everyone else’s fault and not me having shit genetics

There is nothing wrong with me except my looks. Literally nothing. Why shouldn't I be mad?

Reasons for your virginity: Ugliness, shortness, autism and other sources of mental illness.

Almost accurate. It's not autism, it's not being neurotypical. Either way, it's over for 90% of us.