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[–]Mazurro 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Let's make it with an example. Imagine that you are without any friends, you move through life coping, you are constantly bullied in school and people hate you for plain existance, despite you doing nothing wrong.

You go to a therapist, you see a therapist who is dude who abused drugs in his youth hard and recovered or a foid, who is mentally sick bipolar schizoid and wanted to learn something about her mental problem and passed university somehow.

You open up and tell about your problems, how lonely you are, how suicidal you are, how you do stuff but you don't see a single reason in doing this shit because it leads nowhere.

They listen to you, but they don't believe you. Instead, they give you bullshit social exercises, which you can do for eternity, but they will change nothing, because you are trying to deal with effects, rather than with the problem itself.

They can't make you less lonely, they can try to make you FEELING less lonely, as your urge to meet people will decrease. They will imply the rules that world obeys, which are so completely false, that you can't even try to believe that anyone respects those shit rules. You will pay money for this shit, leave the therapy and you face the same world as an hour ago.

Nothing has changed. Neither your looks, neither the treatment, neither the people who are terrible.

Therapy is only meant for people, who didn't yet realised how this world works. They are programmed to cope with rejecting any possibility, that the world works differently, than some random FOID has taught them in therapy. They can be given thousands examples, they will feel suicidal, but will always reject this idea. If you know how this shit works, you can't forget it. No matter what.

[–]yabbit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Therapy is the new socially acceptable way to tell somebody you don't give a shit about to fuck off basically. It exists to gaslight people who question the shit system they're born into and if that doesn't work sedate them with pharmeceutical drugs.

[–]Mazurro 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

if that doesn't work sedate them with pharmeceutical drugs.

That's not even partially true. Therapy refers to psychological part of it, psychiatry is VERY real and works. Pharmaceutical drugs do fix your brain. If you really reject the idea of meds helping, then it's just low IQ antiscientific shit.

[–]yabbit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

For actual diseases like schizophrenia and bpd sure but usually they just give you shit to hit their quota

[–]Mazurro 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I went there with huge anxiety, stress issues and huge depression with suicide thoughts which were affecting my physical life. And it fixed a serious amount of those.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

was it SSRIs? Those are meant to just lower your libido so that would in theory help an incel to make them stop wanting to have sex.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, those were SSRIs and it decreased libido by a lot then. You couldn't make it hard, you could masturbate 1 hour and not cum.

Also, it absolutely desensitized you. It was good shit.

[–]takavoid513 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have been to therapy before and it is useless in terms of inceldom or relationships in general. I would best describe it as going to see a supervisor who only cares about fulfilling their checklists rather than listening to your backstory or issues. If you use logic, you will understand that therapists are only useful for more defined issues such as mental illness rather than awful environmental and societal factors in which little to no mental manipulation can assist in. There is also the fact that the majority of them are women and given their nature will laugh behind your back. You are just a customer to them, not a patient. It doesn't help as well some therapists have called the police on incels and are highly wary of us. Most of our issues stem from factors outside our control, and to blame yourself for not being successful with women with multiple attempts at dating is just wrong.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I see the main reason to go to therapy is not to talk about problems, whioch does nothing, but to get meds, which I don't personally recommend but I think it does help some people, depends on what the mental issues are.

[–]Mazurro 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I got meds WITHOUT therapy, I was recommended therapy after I got meds. Psychiatrist even said, that therapy won't work on me if I am not under med influence.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

did a regular doctor just prescribe them

[–]Mazurro 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, actual psychiatrist. Therapy is being made by psychotherapeutists (doctors of psychiatry who also do this no scientific bullshit psychology na) or psychologists.

Being prescribed meds has nothing to do with actual listening to platitudes.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Want to know what the worst form of therapy hell is, going to a group therapy, where there are also depressed girls that have bfs AND there are chads there that are forced to go to therapy because they had a drug offense. And listening to them whine about their problems. A girl was depressed because she was drunk driving as a teen and got her friend that was in the car with her killed.