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[–]fschmidt 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Reformation Christianity in the 1700s had similar rules. It's all about keeping traditional religion and avoiding the degeneracy of religion which results in the degeneracy of everything else. Muslims and traditional Anabaptists are reasonably traditional. But Muslims have other problems. Visit your local mosque to learn more.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And how exactly did the campaign of avoiding the degeneracy of religion ultimately turn out?

I don't agree with the application of religious laws in a very strict sense either, be it Christian or Islam. But still just saying.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And how exactly did the campaign of avoiding the degeneracy of religion ultimately turn out?

Very well during the Reformation. It produced the Enlightenment and all progress that resulted from that.

But religion, by itself, cannot sustain good culture for reasons I explained here.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't believe all liberalism is a bad thing, but I can agree with you that at this point it became too excessive to sustain society for much longer.

I have to admit, it might just be liberalism's own demise everywhere.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I sympathize a little bit with EternalSunset. The world today is depressing, it would have been nice to live and die until the end of the 1990s because I would have already lived the life that I wanted before 9/11 and all stuff kicked in and it was all downhill. I must be coping. I think being very tough and show no mercy is the only way we can even try to save our world at this point.

[–]Mazurro 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Religion was never supposed to be about belief in some guy who changed water into wine or cured some ill guy or that world was created by some greater entity, but rather about controlling people.

Why so many people abandon religion on the west? Not because they don't believe in something on a spiritual level - we all believe in something happening after death, about some moral rights (however its degradading now) or how the world was made, but more and more normies don't want to be controlled by religion.

Religion says fucking around is bad, abortion whenever you want is evil? Then fuck religion. It's all about it to be honest.

The only thing that differs east and west women are the western medias and eastern men. But its sadly changing. The only was so this system will collapse is.. allowing it to happen and comeback to square one.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Religion says fucking around is bad, abortion whenever you want is evil? Then fuck religion.

The Old Testament supports prostitution and abortion. It is against turning all women into sluts since this results in incels. Religious texts are generally good, but since people are morons, they misinterpret these texts.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe Old Testament > New Testament.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's my preference but I have no problem with people who prefer the New Testament or the Quran.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But either way primary goal is to raise a family and get a child

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What do you mean by "either way"?

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean that maybe it didn't specifically penalise "fucking around" but the primary goal was the same all the time.

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Fucking around" means women become sluts which means women chase a few men which means most men don't get to raise a family and get a child. That's the West today. So this way doesn't work. For more, see Sexual Utopia in Power.