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[–]CrackingYs 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's an interesting take. But I think there's some fundamental problems with it.

The biggest problem with your graph, is Incels and Redpill are ideologically aligned whereas in your graph they are opposed to eachother. Incel and Redpill both want men and women to be in relationships whereas mgtow and feminists do not. So the graph should reflect that. Incels and Redpill differ in that Incels essentially want traditional monogamous relationships, whereas Redpill want polygamous relationships with multiple partners. I do not consider Redpillers to be traditionalists (mgtow are closer to traditionalists).

So I think maybe there should be 2 axes:

TRADITIONALIST -> PROGRESSIVIST

CELIBACY -> MONOGAM -> POLYGAMY

Incels are TRADITIONALIST and MONOGAMY (midpoint)

RedPill are PROGRESSIVIST and POLYGAMY

MGTOW are TRADITIONALIST and CELIBACY

Feminists are PROGRESSIVIST and CELIBACY

[–]CrackingYs 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Here I graphed it up:

https://i.imgur.com/mVolcvX.png

[–]CrackingYs 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Updated with Female Dating Strategy, Incel Tears, and 1st/2nd/3rd wave Feminism:

https://i.imgur.com/rZDIHp3.png

[–]BLACKEDpill 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, the pills are a linear progression, not a blend of ideologies

Infact, its more like a horseshoe

Bluepill (Personality, aka who you are, determines finding women) >>> Redpill (maxxing determines finding women) >>> Blackpill (Looks, aka who you are, determines finding women.) And jfl if you think blackpill is nihilism. Apathy =/= nihilism.

[–]automoderator[M] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Personality isn't that important to most women. They often emphemize personality for good physical looks and social status. When gangbanger Jeremy Meeks was released from prison for robbing and beating another boy close to death, his girlfriend married and had children with him. Meeks improved his personality so much that he later cheated on his wife with a rich bimbo and didn't even feel bad about it.

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[–]SocietyisDisgusting 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

it s pretty damm good

that said it s hard to rank religion. it has elements of bluepill and traditionalism, but at the same time where most users are cucks the sect leaders are a whole other game

[–]sevenpillarsofcope[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

agreed, religions like Islam and Christianity have alot of redpill as fuck shit when it comes to treating women, but at the same time it also has alot of bluepill theory like believing in afterlife.

[–]superdonkey 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

the redpill -> blackpill transition is definitely accurate in my case

[–]Kaguya 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I have used to be a MGTOW before realising that 80% of your life is determined by family and genes and as a result going blackpill. That, and a fuckton of failures, bullying and abuse.

[–]superdonkey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That, and a fuckton of failures, bullying and abuse.

Fuck yes. There's only so much rejection you can take before you realize there has to be a really dark truth behind it all. For me, the blackpill was the answer to everything.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Seems pretty accurate, although this doesn't align with it's members to say the least kek.

[–]hybristophilia 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some spelling mistakes : nihilism, traditional

Other than that, like the others commented I don't agree with the pyramid system. Also the blackpill is at the top, making it seem like the blackpill (looks above all) is the top conclusion. It ignores the illegal stuff we're not allowed to discuss here, that actually top the black pill

[–]mrchoco4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yikeroonis there is a lot to unpack this is VERY offensive to my 'le wifey and her boyfriend!