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[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Aaaand, there it is, the reason I was suspicious of the hydrogen push. New ways to destroy the earth, and centralize the process. God forbid we have actual clean energy with energy independence.

[–]Chop_Chop[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Hydrogen is the definition of decentralized energy- anyone with water and electricity can make it. No more monopolies, no tankers, no Petrodollar, no refineries. China, Korea and Japan get it. North Americans can watch.

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yes, but this article shows the true colors of why it's being pushed over solar or bladeless rooftop turbines. They want control and ownership, and for incomprehensible reasons, to disrupt communities and the earth. Maybe this is a way they see to repurpose their oil and gas fracking companies once they've extracted the last of that.

[–]Chop_Chop[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Zero-carbon hydrogen injected into gas grid for first time in groundbreaking UK trial. "The 20% H2 & natural gas blend is being used to heat 100 homes & 30 faculty buildings at Keele University in Staffordshire. Unlike natural gas, when H2 is burned it produces heat & water as opposed to C02." LINK

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yup, a bogus way to continue fracking, which is bad every which way. Let's make hydrogen a different way, 'kay? In this context carbon is a red herring. There are plentiful other terrible effects of fracking, including wasting MASSIVE amounts of water, then polluting the water table, causing earthquakes, ruining communities and property values, fucking with nature--need I go on?

[–]Chop_Chop[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

need I go on?

Not really. Seems you know nothing about today's Hydrogen industry.

Zero-carbon hydrogen injected into gas grid for first time in groundbreaking UK trial. "The 20% H2 & natural gas blend is being used to heat 100 homes & 30 faculty buildings at Keele University in Staffordshire. Unlike natural gas, when H2 is burned it produces heat & water as opposed to C02." LINK

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well, could you please educate us then on how this kind of fracking is better than the current fracking?

[–]Chop_Chop[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

this kind of fracking is better than the current fracking?

They are not talking about fracking, these are natural hydrogen sources

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It sounds like fracking, but I am not a geologist. But they are talking about a blend with natural gas, which is still tying hydrogen to a practice which needs to stop.

[–]Chop_Chop[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Earth's Surprising Hydrogen Reserves

Extraordinary discovery of Large-Scale Hydrogen Underground deposit

Underground hydrogen deposits uncovered at 100m depth

The publication that we are proposing is the abstract of an inquiry we carried out following some hypotheses, later confirmed, about the probability that there could widespread and large deposits of natural hydrogen at low depth. The research of which we shall only provide some well-known and published references, overturns the concepts and notions on the plausibility of extracting hydrogen from the subsoil, just as it happens for petroleum and natural gas extraction. The scientific literature only mentions this hypothesis for circumstances of peculiar geological conditions and great depths....more https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/earths-surprising-hydrogen-reserves-rené-burri