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[–]Tom9152 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Years ago I was homeless for a week. People would ask me to work off the books often. They all refused to pay.

One guy had me move furniture for 6 hours, handed me a paper bag. He hopped in his truck and left. I actually thought there was money in the bag, nope. Two bean sandwiches.

After the work was done, they would say things like "you're all on food stamps and I pay for those so I've paid you". I wasn't on food stamps.

Most people see the homeless as easy prey.

[–]Butttcandy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Homeless people bad now?

[–]FullBloodedWhiteMale[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Pretty much. Most vagrants are either drugged or drunk or simply don't care if they are offending people or choose not to be productrive. Those are bad people.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

What if they simply choose not to participate in a debt slavery system that offers them the bare minimum and zero say in it? Is that really so bad?

[–]FullBloodedWhiteMale[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Would you want vagrants camping on the sidewalk in front of your home and kids, urinating, defecating, drugging/drinking, probably stealing, creating health risks? That's what I don't want. Do you agree?

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I agree. So kill them all - and any in the future who might also have bad times.

Or, you and your community and society could manifest some compassion, create community centers, job centers, and fulfilling alternatives to the corporate 9-5 cubicle career lifestyle, among others. There are no shortage of alternative solutions (besides prisons) but the culture needs to support or at the very least allow those alternatives to exist.

[–]FullBloodedWhiteMale[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We already have community centers, job centers. Why would you imply there aren't?

It's not society's responsibility to create work; it's the vagrant's responsibility not to be a vagrant. The main reason a business exists is to make a profit.

THere are plenty of "fulfilling alternatives to the corporate 9-5 cubicle career lifestyle"; Why would you write that?

"There are no shortage of alternative solutions" 100% correct: working and not being a drug addict or drunk and not being a public nuicance are the alternatives 99.9999% of us choose. That is, we work and are civilized and responsible and not a disgusting vagrant.

[–]mikipika 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well surprise, surprise. Even the white guy beggar doesn't want the job. But the MSM wants you to believe the brown skins are the problem.

[–]FullBloodedWhiteMale[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The white guy begger is most likley a human scumbag either drugged up or drunk or just lazy. He needs to be processed:

Offer the vagrants three choices: Stop being homeless OR accept room and board in return for sobriety and WORK (via job shops) OR get arrested and be put to work. The couple of percent who truly are too ill to work, we will take care of (after we've concluded they have no assets or income). The job shops partition out work the illegals are doing now: picking crops, processing chicken, sorting recyclables, cleaning buses, repairing hiking trails, picking up trash, etc. The employers pay back the government to offset the cost of the room and board or incarceration. There are no other solutions. Get tough or accept vagrancy.This is bullet proof. Win Win Win Win Win. If you have a better solution, provide it.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Lots of assumptions there.

What makes work meaningful to you? Will they be getting the same out of it?

Getting tough may be PART of an answer. One answer will never suffice. There needs to be MANY alternatives and options for the MANY types of people that are "problematic". By exploring more options you can also find out what works, what doesn't and direct resources appropriately.

[–]FullBloodedWhiteMale[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"What makes work meaningful to you? Will they be getting the same out of it?" IN context with my post? Earning money to provide a home. Yes, they will get the same thing out of it that the other 99.999% of us do. That is, it they're working and earning then they can afford a place to live.

"One answer will never suffice." We don't know if this is true but I'm providing a framework that will work. My categories are broad but every vagrant fits into one. And, each one of my three categories can have more specific branches. Work? Yes, OK, trimming trees or sorting recyclables. Can't be productive? No. OK, why? Mentally ill? Physically handicapped? Etc.