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[–]Wrencer 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I agree tbh, it's like some women refuse to see that women can be sexist towards other women, too. I've honestly encountered some men who were more feminist than some women.

[–]Portrynial 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I think people unfairly expect women to be perfect, with an unspoken but obvious rule that any flaw or error of a woman can be perceived as an excuse to abuse her (to any varying degree of abuse.) Sometimes making it seem like she "deserves" it.

This is a lot of what I think toxic female gender roles are about. It isn't just femininity either, it's every type of expectation for a woman to be perfect, judged by other women, even masculine women or tomboys.

But no, I don't think it's unequal to associate men with negativity. When our real experience with men has been negative, we are just telling the truth.

It's not equality to silence that truth. Equality would be ending abuse and violence against women. The one way I might agree is, that a lot of women hate other women. Some women abuse other women. I think that also is part of our oppression.

But our lack of perfection or lack of being perfect little angels, shouldn't be an excuse to let toxic men off the hook.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I can relate to some degree. I have done some things I am rightfully ashamed of in my life, wrong things. I think it might have helped me to avoid doing them if I'd understood more that women have to be careful to not be bad people too.

[–]powpowpowpow[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Accountability is very necessary and so is being self consious of our actions and how they can affect others... everyone should practice that imo

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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