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It's a tempting, natural reaction to want this place to be just for women but, what's the point? Like not in theory, in reality. What has it ever accomplished? Sure there's personal stories and sensitive topics that are best shared with a trusted group, but IME the women have been just as vitriolic as the men.

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Hm.

Yeah, I've had this instinct that women are "safer" than men somehow when... that often is not the case. Women can be abusive. Women can be pedophiles. I don't think it does women any favor to be let off the hook for this, either.

what's the point? Like not in theory, in reality.

Welllll. I guess "in reality" we'll have to see. I just really would rather hear women's opinions. We can't dismiss them as "oh that's just a man's opinion on this, he's just trying to keep women down because of his own interests". I mean, yes, men can influence women who come speak here too. But I think there's something meaningful about just hearing the perspectives of other women.

There are a lot of things I really like about GC. The female atmosphere was one of them, but I know it left out a lot of the voices of a lot of women because it was feminist and radical feminist about that. I want to hear from those women.

And I also don't want to hear from /s/testing_sub3, y'know? Or if I do, I want it to be because a woman went there and believes it... I want to know what she gets out of it, why she thinks it, etc.

That's my thinking, anyway. I also don't want to participate in helping a man turn GC away from a focus on women, if that's what the person who gave me this sub was attempting to do.