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[–]Susiesmum 18 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Instead of taking our spaces, they could be rallying to have their own spaces. Instead of fighting and arguing about their biological reality, they could say "I know I'm a male/female, but I prefer to be to called she/he." Instead of trying to silence us online, they could chill the fuck out and let us talk. Instead of insisting that children should be given drugs to stop puberty, they could acknowledge the risks and work to make it illegal to medically transition unless someone is 18 or older. Instead of trying to take over our sports teams, they could ban together and create their own sports teams. Instead of invading everything and expecting everyone to change and play along with their worldview they could accept that not everyone believes the things they do, and that's okay.

The trans community refuses to be rational. Instead they scream, cry, want to take over our spaces, claim our opinions are literally killing them, some say they want US dead, some use guilt trips if you don't want a relationship with them, and they try to shut down everyone with an opinion and only adhere to certain rhetoric like we live in a communist society.

We could be their allies, but they refuse to meet us halfway or cooperate at all. We're all about breaking sexist stereotypes and standing up for marginalized people. It's sad they behave this way.

Do you have some criticism of this post? Many of us WERE supportive of trans rights until we realised that the majority of transwomen these days are crossdressing perverts who have nothing in common with transsexuals.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Do you have some criticism of this post? Many of us WERE supportive of trans rights until we realised that the majority of transwomen these days are crossdressing perverts who have nothing in common with transsexuals.

THIS

[–]theachan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Do you know how traumatic going through the wrong puberty can be? Forbidding medical transition until somebody is 18 can ruin their life.

Or how horrible it feels to be on the hypothetical "trans sports team"? Imagine that... out of the, say, 13 trans kids in a large high school, maybe 6 or 7 are out, and only 2 or 3 probably want to play sports. How the hell could you get funding for that kind of thing?

"invading everything and expecting everyone to change and play along with their worldview"

Yeah, we aren't doing that. I'm fine with compromising, but you all are asking for far too much.

[–]Susiesmum 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Puberty is traumatic for everyone. Allowing teenagers to mutilate their bodies when they are too young to get a tattoo is monstrous. I don't care about your feelings. Transgendered boys can play on the boys team, transgendered girls can play on the boys team too.

You seem to have no idea what is actually happening around you. You don't want compromise, you want total obedience.

[–]theachan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Haha no. Puberty is not traumatic for everyone - at least not in the way that it is for trans people. Imagine if you had a hormone condition when you went through puberty. You would get a beard and chest hair, your voice would deepen, etc. Now, imagine not being allowed to correct that because hormones are restricted - you can't correct it until you're 18. That's what being trans would be like if we didn't allow puberty blockers.

And, wow. Trans boys can play on the boys' team, but trans girls can't play on the girls' team? That's a double standard if I've ever seen one!

I'm still open to a compromise...

[–]Susiesmum 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You have no idea what women's lives are like, do you?

Imagine if you had a hormone condition when you went through puberty.

Transgenderism is a mental disorder, not a hormonal disorder. If a girl with anorexia wanted to starve herself to death because she thought she was too fat, would you give her diet pills?

Transgendered boys are male, so they belong on the boys team. Girls who imagine that they are boys can play on the boys team too, and they should certainly not be allowed to compete with the other girls if they are taking testosterone.

You want a compromise? I want to protect girls and women from abuse and injustice. I won't compromise on that.

[–]theachan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wow! Here's the thing... it's not anorexia if you actually weigh 400 pounds.

That takes a lot of doublethink to hold... it's about hormones and not about hormones at the same time?

Alright, fine. You can do that. I'm not going to stop you from protecting girls and women from abuse and injustice. I'm not asking you to compromise on that.