"Cancel culture cannot erase a strong argument" - Feminist Current

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[–]OffAndSphere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

and then you've got the idiots who decide to send threats to trans people anyway

Edit: Look at this quote from the article if you seriously want to understand how the joke is funny:

If I were, in fact, a bigot, these cancellations would be easy to understand.

I was trying to point out that there probably are complete cretins that think they don't deserve to be cancelled after threatening transgender people. This joke sucks hard even with an explanation, haha.

[–]FlippyKing 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

polite comments are considered threats by trans activists. I've not seen any actual threats directed at trans people, meanwhile the threats coming from them are staggering: https://terfisaslur.com/

Women, as in actual women, have been raped by transwomen, as in actual men identifying as women, in prison and many places. https://saidit.net/s/thisneverhappens/

Where as the actual violence against trans people is very low, so low that each documented event can be looked at directly without using statistics. Most, the vast majority, involve drugs and prostitution, and often the violence is initiated by a transwoman. I'll leave you to look up that if you want.

[–]OffAndSphere 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There's so many variables at play for this topic that even empirical evidence struggles at making a point. Even in cases where there aren't that many variables, usually there are still far too many for anecdotal evidence to work well. Both of the sources you linked are essentially piles of anecdotal evidence—albeit quite large piles of anecdotal evidence, but still piles of anecdotal evidence nonetheless. A notable variable that plays into this is the amount of people collecting information about threats—there's obviously going to be more evidence against one side if the other side is more competent at collecting evidence.

I'd like to have a journal, survey, or study on the rates of transgender people's misdeeds, but I don't want to spend forever reading something to have a discussion on the Internet, so I'd prefer if the source was no longer than 15 pages, unless it has larger than usual text. Normally, I'd look it up, but I don't think Google or any other search engines will bring me to anything useful.

[–]FlippyKing 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I feel like you dismissing the links as anecdotal while not wanting a source longer than 15 pages is self-contradictory. There are not so many variables, a few discrete sets of behavior seem readily discernible. Anyone trying to do any study objectively on any of these issues is "cancelled" and set up by a mob of trans activists and often doxxed if not threatened directly with violence.

In any event your reply walks back your initial comment quite a bit, so maybe you recognize that your initial comment is basically bogus.

[–]OffAndSphere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I feel like you dismissing the links as anecdotal while not wanting a source longer than 15 pages is self-contradictory.

I have seen one study that was that length before. Ironically, I am using anecdotal evidence to support my case here. I still don't see how reading time has anything to do with whether an experiment was done in an controlled environment or not.

There are not so many variables, a few discrete sets of behavior seem readily discernible.

You did not bring up any evidence that "There are not so many variables"; Even a singular independent variable can produce a varying array of results, so what is considered "not so many variables" would probably not be above five. It may seem "readily discernible", but there have been lots of things that seemed like they were true but weren't(i.e.: the sun was thought to have revolved around the earth once). Ironically—again—I am using deductive reasoning and anecdotal evidence instead of bringing up evidence gathered with controlled variables and constants.

Anyone trying to do any study objectively on any of these issues is "cancelled" and set up by a mob of trans activists and often doxxed if not threatened directly with violence.

I deduce that the lack of studies holding even the possibility of a morsel of opposition to the transgender community are a symptom of the frenzied cancelling. Ironically—yet again—I have used evidence that wasn't gathered with controlled variables and constants.

Since we're not getting anywhere with transgender violence(violence caused by transgender people, not violence inflicted towards transgender people, Google), let's jump back to my original comment.

and then you've got the idiots who decide to send threats to trans people anyway

Technically, by sheer probability, this statement would probably be true, because there is an infinitesimally small chance that out of the 7.8 billion people, there wouldn't be at least two people who oppose the transgender movement and send threats to transgender people. However, the purpose of the comment was to make a relatable quip that took you a few seconds to understand. Obviously, posting that comment in a subsaidit in support of gender critical feminism would barely have anyone get the gag. Plus, there's not any studies about it, and it's not too on-topic.

Here's an example of a good joke: "violence caused by transgender people, not violence inflicted towards transgender people, Google". You can easily search up evidence—in a sort of meta-like way—by searching up variations of the phrase "violence caused by transgender people", and keep getting results about violence inflicted towards transgender people.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There's a trend here. You type a lot, use fuzzy terms and admit not having thorough data or anything, and end up saying nothing. Regardless of it being "frenzied cancelling" or not, you even in that sentence waste many words to say nothing.

I'd say we could just agree to disagree, but I'd be guessing really. I'm good. Technically, by sheer probability, it's probably true that saying nothing is wasting my time and yours. Good luck!

[–]OffAndSphere 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I want you to point out how I'm being incompetent and wasting your time. Although, since this comment is wasting your time too, I wouldn't mind if you declined and just left the conversation.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

at least you were succinct!