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[–]Feminist_Username[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Is this a decently balanced article about radical feminism (without naming it) from CNN? I might be in shock I can't tell

[–]MissJaneLane 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Radical feminism is from USA in the 1970s, got women bank accounts. 4B starred in south korea in response to mass revenge corn, in recent years. 2 different movements.

[–]WrongToy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Radfem has distinct Marxist roots whereas there’s no evidence 4b in sk does. At its core, 4b is a response to integrate even more effectively into hyper capitalism at the expense of having a relationship and/or children. No matter how shitty things get, I’m glad for my relationship. And I’m sure that many who had kids felt that way.

[–]eddyelric 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm sympathetic to these ladies but I doubt anything will come about expect for terrible memes. it shouldn't be a movement but a personal choice.

[–]Feminist_Username[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So women must only make choices as individuals against men's collective moral decay?

[–]ChaikiKarabli 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the pragmatic view. A sex strike, for instance, would only have a practical effect in altering men's behavior as a group if a certain critical mass is achieved. Acknowledging that most women will not be on board with that, and barring some major change motivating more women to take such action, achieving that critical mass is astronomically unlikely, then the action only makes sense if it personally benefits you (as a woman might decide is the case if she lives in a place with draconian abortion laws and can't realistically travel for one).

Now, if women decided to take a collective action that would actually have a meaningful chance of success, such as agitating for better protections to keep porn away from kids, that is extremely worthwhile even if she personally has no kids or nieces who would benefit from boys being less porn-saturated.

[–]MissJaneLane 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Forget 4B, we're doing 7B now!

[–]Clownfall 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

WGTOW is the new hotness, but MGTOW is still bad, right?

[–]Feminist_Username[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No no please go your own way that would be great

[–]Doberlady 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I read what the 4Bs were and realized that I've been doing 4B for my whole life by accident! 😆