Does dysfunction affect the definitions of male and female?

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[–]FlippyKing 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Do you understand the difference between definite and indefinite? I can affirm that I am definitely male. If someone is easily affirmed as definitely female then we KNOW they are definitely not male.

But if you were to ignore that classification as ruling out them being male, and tried to classify them as male and not consider if they are female, then you would conclude that you could not define them as male. You'd say the female is not male.

But you skip past this as it is not your concern. You are not concerned with seeing clearly defined aspects of the world and creating and using definitions based on those. Instead you go to the margins and ask about people with non-functioning gonades. If their body is designed to produce small mobile gamates, they are male. If their body does or does not work properly is irrelevant. If their body is designed to produce large immoble gamates, they are female. If their body does or does not work properly is irrelevant.

What you're doing is finding red herrings or non sequiturs. You are not offering a functional system to define or classify things, you are instead pretending such can not exist, which leaves it and all things to be declared by those with the most power. For a movement that cries about being oppressed, trans activists want only their power over women to define their femaleness, they want doctors empowered by the money from surgeries to define it, and they want laws to prevent reality to matter in society. Men who identify as women are a toxic mimic of women, and trans activists are a toxic mimic of oppression. Yours are a toxic mimic of questions, citing a toxic mimic of scholarly inquiry. Your goal, be it consciously yours or not, is to eliminate male and female, parents and parental responsibilities. The goal is to replace it with laws and schools and governments and surgeries, making everyone slaves, slaves to mental illnesses, slaves to willful or trained in stupidity (as schools are doing now teaching this gender bullshit to kids), slaves to dysfunctional sexual drives, slaves to the medical professions, and the elimination of family bonds because slaves only have time to work or suffer or die. But, welcome back, troll.

[–]MarkTwainiac 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If their body is designed to produce small mobile gamates, they are male. If their body does or does not work properly is irrelevant. If their body is designed to produce large immoble gamates, they are female. If their body does or does not work properly is irrelevant.

Just to be clear: evolution has arranged things so only the bodies of human males are meant to have the capacity to produce small gametes, sperm, over the course of the whole life span from puberty of adolescence to death. Human females are meant to have the capacity to mature and release large gametes, ova, only for about 40 years of our lives, from menarche circa age 11 to menopause circa age 50.

An adult human female who can't generate gametes (or any gonadal hormones either) can't be assumed to have a body "that does not work properly," so it's inaccurate and unfair to use that kind of phrasing for members of the female sex. Most likely the body of such a woman works perfectly fine, it's just that she's probably 50 or older and thus has been through menopause - like 63 million women in the US today.

Moreover, during the phase of women's lives known as the "childbearing years" or our "reproductive prime," we can't and don't generate gametes all the time the way males do. From puberty through to old age, human males are constantly making sperm in vast amounts - typically millions of sperm each day. By contrast, during the approximately 40-year span of time (or less) when human females usually have the ability ovulate, we only generate and release a single gamete once every 28 days - an average of 13 a year.

So whereas the average human male in good health will produce billions of small gametes in his lifetime, a healthy human female will generate and release a much, much smaller number of large gametes in her life - about 500 in all.

[–]FlippyKing 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sorry for not being pedantically accurate about all the possibilities about why someone might not be producing the gametes their body was designed to produced when I was saying that IT IS IRRELEVANT TO THE MATTER AT HAND. I apologize. I was unaware you would find offense or a problem in some bit of information that was irrelevant to the matter at hand because it was after all irrelevant and not about you or about menopause or any thing other than how you can define men or women. I'll tread more cautiously so as not not offend you any more. No need to parse out if you were offended or what was or wasn't the problem because it's off topic. Just take as an article of faith that what ever you might say, I'm already saying "yes you're right."