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[–]womanual 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Men do not need their own spaces because women do not pose a threat to men. Male privilege means men are more likely to be taken seriously than women. If a man says he's raped by a women, he will most likely be believed, unlike a woman raped by a man who most people will assume she is making false accusations. Yet despite men being more likely to be taken seriously, I can't find a single article online about a man being raped by a woman, or a woman implanting a camera in a public bathroom. Yet I can find plenty of news articles of men raping women. Trust me if a man was raped by a woman it would be all over the news because men are privileged like that. Men would also be more openly sexist.

I also think it's OK for black people to reclaim the n-word but it's racist for white people to use that word, and its OK for black people to have black only spaces but "whites only" is racist. Black people did not systematically enslave white people, or beat and murder white people on a regular basis. They did not deny rights and opportunities to white people.

In 2015, Dylann Storm Roof shot an entire black church after they let him pray for an hour. Later the same year, white supremacist Gregory Bush shot 2 black elders at a Kroger's in Louisville, Kentucky. Minutes before moving to Kroger's, he tried to enter a black church but was denied. See that church had a safety reason to keep out white people, but what reason would a white church have for excluding black people?

Women need their own spaces because many men don't know how to act appropriately or control themselves, as we women know.

IMO men's bathrooms, changing rooms etc. should be made for everyone as men have no need to keep those spaces to themselves. Women's facilities should remain for natal females only. Women should have the option of using both facilities. Some women want to be away from men. Others do not care. Men should use the common facilities which should be designated for both sexes.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Men do not need their own spaces because women do not pose a threat to men. Male privilege means men are more likely to be taken seriously than women. If a man says he's raped by a women, he will most likely be believed, unlike a woman raped by a man who most people will assume she is making false accusations. Yet despite men being more likely to be taken seriously, I can't find a single article online about a man being raped by a woman, or a woman implanting a camera in a public bathroom. Yet I can find plenty of news articles of men raping women. Trust me if a man was raped by a woman it would be all over the news because men are privileged like that. Men would also be more openly sexist.

I agree wholeheartedly with this and I know what you said is truth. I remember when I first peaked and was trying to understand more of the radical feminist perspective, I got in an argument with some MRA about rape and how "men get raped by women just as much as women get raped by men". I was curious so I tried to look for cases that had a woman raping a man and I couldn't find any documented case at the time. I did a quick search now and only came up with two cases but I understand that the underlying point is that men raping women is FAR MORE frequent than the reverse. And you're right, if men raping women was as common as some of these men claim, we would be seeing these case stories all over in the media.

I also think it's OK for black people to reclaim the n-word but it's racist for white people to use that word, and its OK for black people to have black only spaces but "whites only" is racist. Black people did not systematically enslave white people, or beat and murder white people on a regular basis. They did not deny rights and opportunities to white people.

As a black person, this is an interesting perspective. I personally don't think anyone should be saying the N-word in earnest because it's such an ugly word but that's my own opinion of course. Though I thank you for explaining the difference between an all-black space vs an all-white space. I remember seeing some white people in the past complaining how it's unfair for them to not have an all-white space yet black people are allowed to and it not being racist.

In 2015, Dylann Storm Roof shot an entire black church after they let him pray for an hour. Later the same year, white supremacist Gregory Bush shot 2 black elders at a Kroger's in Louisville, Kentucky. Minutes before moving to Kroger's, he tried to enter a black church but was denied. See that church had a safety reason to keep out white people, but what reason would a white church have for excluding black people?

Totally understandable perspective. I can't recall ever hearing about a black individual shooting up an event or space that had a majority white turnout.

IMO men's bathrooms, changing rooms etc. should be made for everyone as men have no need to keep those spaces to themselves. Women's facilities should remain for natal females only. Women should have the option of using both facilities. Some women want to be away from men. Others do not care. Men should use the common facilities which should be designated for both sexes.

While I think that a third space that is unisex would be the best middleground, I do understand why you feel the way you do because men don't actively pose a threat to women for obvious reason.

[–]womanual 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

While I think that a third space that is unisex would be the best middleground, I do understand why you feel the way you do because men don't actively pose a threat to women for obvious reason.

What would a 3rd space do though, since men don't need their own special spaces?

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t want females in the men’s facilities either. “To each their own” worked wonderfully for millennia in that regard.