If men aren't allowed to have male only spaces, why should we allow women to have their own spaces?

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[–]womanual 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Men do not need their own spaces because women do not pose a threat to men. Male privilege means men are more likely to be taken seriously than women. If a man says he's raped by a women, he will most likely be believed, unlike a woman raped by a man who most people will assume she is making false accusations. Yet despite men being more likely to be taken seriously, I can't find a single article online about a man being raped by a woman, or a woman implanting a camera in a public bathroom. Yet I can find plenty of news articles of men raping women. Trust me if a man was raped by a woman it would be all over the news because men are privileged like that. Men would also be more openly sexist.

I also think it's OK for black people to reclaim the n-word but it's racist for white people to use that word, and its OK for black people to have black only spaces but "whites only" is racist. Black people did not systematically enslave white people, or beat and murder white people on a regular basis. They did not deny rights and opportunities to white people.

In 2015, Dylann Storm Roof shot an entire black church after they let him pray for an hour. Later the same year, white supremacist Gregory Bush shot 2 black elders at a Kroger's in Louisville, Kentucky. Minutes before moving to Kroger's, he tried to enter a black church but was denied. See that church had a safety reason to keep out white people, but what reason would a white church have for excluding black people?

Women need their own spaces because many men don't know how to act appropriately or control themselves, as we women know.

IMO men's bathrooms, changing rooms etc. should be made for everyone as men have no need to keep those spaces to themselves. Women's facilities should remain for natal females only. Women should have the option of using both facilities. Some women want to be away from men. Others do not care. Men should use the common facilities which should be designated for both sexes.

[–]WildApples 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Male privilege means men are more likely to be taken seriously than women. If a man says he's raped by a women, he will most likely be believed, unlike a woman raped by a man who most people will assume she is making false accusations. Yet despite men being more likely to be taken seriously, I can't find a single article online about a man being raped by a woman, or a woman implanting a camera in a public bathroom. Yet I can find plenty of news articles of men raping women. Trust me if a man was raped by a woman it would be all over the news because men are privileged like that.

I strongly disagree. I agree that men are much less likely to be sexually assaulted by women, but when they are I do not think it is taken seriously at all. People find the idea of a woman assaulting a man funny, so a male victim would likely face incredulity, shame, and ridicule if he came forward. Also, the idea that men are always up for sex and lucky to get it means there is a cultural idea that men cannot be harmed by sexual assault. For these reasons, when men are sexually assaulted by women, they are less likely to come forward, less likely to be taken seriously when they do, and less likely to receive appropriate emotional support.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This might be true but who are the ones who usually berate and belittle men who get assaulted by women? It's usually other men. I'm not saying that the assault is right because it absolutely isn't no matter woman or man but I think if men stopped making fun of other men for things like that (and especially mentally health, this whole "suffer in silence" thing), it would certainly help.