Trans College Swimmer Lia Thomas Lets Junk Hang Out In Locker Room, Female Teammates Say, And Coach Won't Do Anything About It

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[–]FlippyKing 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The coach has the ability. Anyone can be cut from a team. Michael Jordan was cut from a high school basketball team. If he had played on the girl's team, maybe that would not have happened. Also, the coach doesn't not have to do this. If "forced", quit. Ruining the sport you're a coach in, making a horrible experience for the women you're supposed to be a leader for, letting a douche bag guy run around with his dick out in the women's locker room, does not fall under "I'm just doing my job". The kid who collects the laundry is just doing a job, a "coach" is supposed to be there for these young adults as they transition, not from ivy league dude to ivy league fake-woman but, from high school to professional life. "Shut up and put up with it" is not something he should expect of the young women who look to him for coaching. In summary: fuck that guy and the schlong of "Lia's" he rode in on.

[–]soundsituation 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Do you really believe that either of those things would keep LT from being on this team? I don't see how the cut would stand. Normally cuts are left up to the coach's discretion but if the rationale for it is deemed "discriminatory" it's going to be overturned by the athletic director or dean or NCAA or any other person/governing body with more authority than the coach. Quitting wouldn't affect this dude's participation either; another coach would just step in to fill the role. When I referred to the coach's ability in this situation, I only meant his ability to keep "Lia" out of the locker room and off the team. He still has the ability to exercise his integrity and I agree with you that in doing so he'd be a better coach and role model to these women, but that's a separate question.

[–]FlippyKing 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If you're saying the forces of evil will do everything they can to put "lia" on the team, maybe so. But without a fight they don't even have a chance to back down or reconsider, or to experience pressure from above themselves. It sounds defeatist and I don't know why the same logic did not apply in "GC" at reddit. None of the drama of the banning would have occurred, and we'd all be like what once were tea bags steeping in an unending flow of the day's raw sewage.

I don't know what options you are leaving the coach, other than the last bit we agree on. But, that is probably the most important bit. A coach generally coaches athletes to fight and never give up till the end. That the school would eventually over rule the coach is not the point. Make them do that. Make the fight about that, instead of giving team creep a win by forfeiture. The coach has a responsibility to the women he's coaching, if the coach genuinely sees "Lia" as one of them, then that's the problem. But that problem is not just that the coach is as woke/isolated from reality as the rest of the university (Ivy League, so there's the future "leaders" of America and the world), but that the young women on the swim team have no real advocate.

Regardless of how the school will treat any of the people involved, acquiescing without a fight is not really an option that should be respected.

[–]soundsituation 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It seems that we don't actually disagree on anything. If it sounded like I wasn't leaving the coach with any options it's because I was only commenting on his agency in the very narrow, binary context of whether or not he can kick (and keep) LT off the team. That's what I meant when I said there are two separate questions. Does the coach have the ability to make any kind of difference? I agree with you that he does. Does he have the power to yeet the narcissistic pervert? No, I don't think so, and that assessment is based on the fact that Penn has already come out in enthusiastic support of "Lia's" participation in spite of protests from students and parents as well as vocal opposition from prominent members of the swimming community. It's not that I don't think that the wider context is important (I do), I'm just saying that we were talking about different things.

[–]FlippyKing 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

fair! I still think make them really back up their bs and cut "Lia" and make them reinstate the very privileged Ivy league dude and if that means they fire the coach, then they go coachless unless the assistant steps "down" to that level of being an accomplice to this crime against nature on many levels.

But I suspect the coach sees "lia" as stunning and brave. I think I'd respect that more than if the coach knows it's all bs but plays along for the pay check.

[–]soundsituation 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s a great idea. It would also be way more exciting than a swim meet whose results are an illegitimate foregone conclusion.