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[–]artetolife 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Since when has a woman wearing a tie been that shocking? Was gramps admitted to hospital in the 1970s? I suspect she's exaggerating this story to have her oppressed lgbt moment - the "queer" character visiting sick elderly relatives and being accepted or rejected is a super common trope in lgbt movies and TV.

[–]MarkTwainiac 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, gramps probably never saw any movies, photos or videos showing women like Marline Dietrich, Bette Davis, Katharine Hepburn, Brigette Bardot, Audrey Hepburn, Diane Keaton, Chrissie Hynde, Annie Lennox, Grace Jones, Madonna, Julia Roberts, Beyonce, etc wearing neckties.

Gramps no doubt never took note of any women in the US military who wore dress uniforms with neckties going back at least to WW1 more than 100 years ago.

https://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/picturing-womens-participation-during-great-war

He probably never saw any of the zillion girls who traditionally have worn neckties as part of their school uniforms, either.