Intersectional feminism is failing Indian women

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[–]Nayenezgani 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

They claim it is necessary to include other axes of oppression like caste, class, ethnicity in the analysis of “gendered” oppression, lest feminist analysis becomes limited to upper-caste or white women.

Anti-racism was a MRA movement all along. Left-wing MRAs say that racism is really just covert misandry. What that really means, though, is that prejudice is the only way males can admit male defects. Rape is only a problem to males if they can accuse other groups of males that they don't like -- Syrian refugees, Catholic priests, and so on -- of being rapists.

If males were not racist to each other then they would mobilize against females as a class. I never cared about racism but now I care even less when I realized that. Racism is one of the few ways I can make myself socially superior to a male, not to mention racist comedy is pretty funny.

Edit: Wrong word.

[–]BiologyIsReal[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Women are affected by racism and other non sex-based forms of opression, too. Honestly, I don't think we can talk about prostitution and surrogacy without also adressing class, ethnicity and imperialism because it's the more oppressed women who are more likely to be affected by them.

I think the real reason "intersectional feminisnm" fails women it's because their advocates (who often come from a more privileged background) have the same interest in advancing other causes than they do in advancing feminism, i.e. zero. At best, it's all virtue signalling. At worst, it's a Trojan horse.

[–]Nayenezgani 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Honestly, I don't think we can talk about prostitution and surrogacy without also adressing class, ethnicity and imperialism because it's the more oppressed women who are more likely to be affected by them.

Most leftist causes -- anti-imperialism, anti-racism, anti-homophobia -- are really males being upset they're being relegated to female status, and anger at the fact they are not able to oppress females as effectively as the 1%.

I was never a radical feminist but Andrea Dworkin really understood that the left is not our friend.

[–]BiologyIsReal[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Liberals (assuming that is what you mean by left) are NOT anti-imperialist in any way. For goodness sake, the Democratic Party from the US is made up of a bunch of war-mongers like the Repulican one! Not to mention they are quite eager to export their insane idead about "gender identity" to the rest of the world. How anyone can take liberals' lies of being anti-imperialist seriously?

Honestly, it's uncredible that you apparently cannot see how women may also be hurt by those issues that you so easily dismiss.

[–]lefterfield 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Accurate. I wish leftist females could recognize this.

[–]Cass 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I judge them by their culture. For example, I have nothing against regular indians, but there are some--what they call the lower castes I guess--who make children just to sell them into slavery at the earliest opportunity.

[–]Nayenezgani 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

For example, I have nothing against regular indians, but there are some--what they call the lower castes I guess--who make children just to sell them into slavery at the earliest opportunity.

Indian "caste" is complicated because the word encompasses two separate concepts in their culture, varṇa and jâti. Varṇa is more of a religious categorization of different occupations while jâti consists of the hundreds of endogamous groups in India.

I would say that the worst places to be female in India include northwestern states like Haryana, which has one of the lowest female:male ratios in the world, or in one of the BIMARU states. Haryanvis tend to have an elevated proportion of Indo-Aryan Steppe pastorialist ancestry compared to people from less brutal states like Kerala, so they're more related to the people who likely contributed to the institution of varṇa in the first place.

Funnily enough, a lot of Indian liberals like to attribute Indian misogyny to "Brahmanical patriarchy" while OBCs/SCs/STs and "oppressed" groups like Muslims get a pass for almost anything. You might not have anything against "regular Indians", but it seems like some regular Indians do.

Edit: Messed up phrasing.