Sonita (girls being married off to strangers is not new in Afghanistan but no one cared about it last week)

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[–]Nayenezgani 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Much of Western coverage of the Taliban takeover purposely decontextualizes social issues that have been occurring for a long time before Kabul was captured. Afghanistan has not been so united for decades. This must be what the 1978 Iranian Revolution felt like. Both events were the inevitable response to Western interference.

And males who pretend they care about imperialism when they are actually celebrating the supposed deterioration of women's rights will be quite dismayed to know that there is currently little evidence girls are being enslaved and in addition the Taliban has expressed an interest in incorporating women in their government. (All of the supposed video evidence I've seen of girls being sold were clearly not taken in Afghanistan.) Capital punishment is considered an acceptable response to rape even in Afghanistan while USians are campaigning for rapists to be let into womens' prisons.

To oppress women is not to restrict women, but lift all restrictions on males.

Like in El Salvador, which has the highest rates of femicide in the world. Latin America in general has one of the highest rates of single motherhood in the world, second to only Africa. Many of those situations were nonconsensual and/or caused by child molestation. Sometimes I pray to a God I don't believe in that incels never discover how much more atrocious it is to be a woman in Central America than in the Middle East.

Religion: paint-by-numbers misogyny.

Atheism: freehand misogyny.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

All of the supposed video evidence I've seen of girls being sold were clearly not taken in Afghanistan.

Can you show me some of the evidence that you believe to be fabricated? Do you think these people are plants?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY2jBV8WpHo

What is the motivation? To make the U.S. stay in Afghanistan for the oil?

Both events were the inevitable response to Western interference.

Bold claim. I don't think so.

the Taliban has expressed an interest in incorporating women in their government

Do you genuinely believe that? There have already been reports of Afghan women being forced to marry fighters and being publicly flogged.

Latin America in general has one of the highest rates of single motherhood in the world

That's because in the Middle East, there is forced marriage.

Yes, Latin America is also hell for women, but in a different way, and at least they are not literally treated as property.

how much more atrocious it is to be a woman in Central America than in the Middle East.

Objectively false. Women have many more rights in Central America. And if you really think Afghanistan is recording every single femicide, then I don't know what to say to you.

[–]Nayenezgani 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Do you think these people are plants

No but clearly you are a vegetable. If you actually watched the video then you will see there is no footage of people being sold, and hilariously the formerly CIA-managed and CIA-funded RFERL (which is possibly inferior to Fox News in terms of reliability) even admits that they "cannot verify these people's accounts" at 1:00. Here: https://invidious.hub.ne.kr/watch?v=pY2jBV8WpHo

What is the motivation? To make the U.S. stay in Afghanistan for the oil?

This is an aggressively retarded question. The USA has been interested in the mineral resources of Afghanistan for decades but dropped the ball as you were certainly dropped on the head as a baby. You may not pay attention to the news at all but you should be aware that even mainstream news sources in the USA are reporting that Afghanistan could hold approximately 1 trillion USD worth of minerals: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/18/business/afghanistan-lithium-rare-earths-mining/index.html

Bold claim. I don't think so.

You have not demonstrated any ability to think at all, and are clearly not aware what happened. Iran was caught in an imperial struggle between Russia and Britain, had Mosaddeq deposed by CIA because he was wresting control of the oil industry away from foreigners, and then had a repressive USA-backed monarchy imposed on them. Islamic theocracy was how the people reasserted their sovereignty, supported by many rural people and even some women.

Do you genuinely believe that? There have already been reports of Afghan women being forced to marry fighters and being publicly flogged.

Do you genuinely believe those reports? The Taliban have officially denied that anyone is being enslaved and there is little evidence of public flogging. Meanwhile many people in Afghanistan still suffer PTSD from the atrocities they endured under the former government and from occupying USian soldiers.

You would definitely have been duped by the Nayirah testimony too, if you would have even cared to pay attention to some small Middle Eastern country you couldn't even locate on a map.

That's because in the Middle East, there is forced marriage.

This is almost non-existent in some Middle Eastern countries. Are you perhaps confusing the Middle East with South Asia? Forced marriages occur in Africa too, and in the Americas.

Women have many more rights in Central America.

Voting is meaningless in Central America because everything is controlled by the oligarchs and the police are useless, not to mention they are often culpable of the same crimes they were supposed to deter. There are countries in the Middle East that are much safer and offer more comprehensive rights for women that are actually enforced.

And if you really think Afghanistan is recording every single femicide, then I don't know what to say to you.

If you understood anything about the world outside your special needs classroom then you might know that femicide is deeply underreported in Central America too. I am tired of your idiocy so I will pass you back to your special needs attendant. Farewell.

Edit: Word.

Edit 2: Superfluous clause.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Way to be a fucking cock. I may formulate a response, but I'm not sure if it's worth it.

[–]usehername 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay, did you think I meant "plants" as in literal, growing plants that produce seeds? I was asking if you thought they were planted there. I think that's what originally triggered you to fly into a rage at me asking some simple questions and stating some facts and opinions. You also did not share the footage you believe to be fabricated, which I think would be supremely helpful in proving your case and highly informative to everyone here.

The Taliban have officially denied that anyone is being enslaved

Yes, I'm sure they would never ever lie about something like that.

many people in Afghanistan still suffer PTSD from the atrocities they endured under the former government and from occupying USian soldiers

Yep. We needed to change our tactics. What we did there sucked ass and we never should have been there in the first place, but the solution isn't just to dip and let the Taliban take over.

You would definitely have been duped by the Nayirah testimony too, if you would have even cared to pay attention to some small Middle Eastern country you couldn't even locate on a map.

So now I'm an idiot for not knowing about something that happened before I was born in "some small Middle Eastern country".

This is almost non-existent in some Middle Eastern countries.

Yes, some. In others, it is very prevalent, including Afghanistan, which is what we have been talking about.

Are you perhaps confusing the Middle East with South Asia?

No.

Forced marriages occur in Africa too, and in the Americas.

Yes, but to a lesser extent. The country with the highest proportional number of cases of child brides aged below 15 is Bangladesh. Also, I think you may be looking at arranged marriage statistics, which is different from forced marriage.

There are countries in the Middle East that are much safer and offer more comprehensive rights for women that are actually enforced.

Quote where I said "every single country in the Middle East is a complete hellhole and none of them have any rights for women".

femicide is deeply underreported in Central America

I know. The question is, why would you even bring up those statistics at all if you were just going to admit they're flawed?

I am tired of your idiocy so I will pass you back to your special needs attendant.

Does it make you feel better to talk down to me?