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    [–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Wow, thank you!

    If I can add, there is something about this new concept of identity that deceives people in at least three ways and gives them a dysfunction (again at least one) that seems tough to free one's self from.

    The deceptions are that: 1) the person is a member of some group that shares so many aspects of the person's issues and dilemmas, 2) the group then knows how to deal with them, and 3) as a collective the group and its allies will make the problems less burdensome. The idea that we have these problems and some other group has them is in a big way a deception even if it is partially true.

    First, we all have problems, and our problems follow certain patterns that can be generalized but by generalizing them we leave the things that make them unique to us. In what is about them that is unique to us is where a lot of our solutions can be found. By analogy, in the movie/rock opera Tommy, the protagonist shuts out the world as a reaction to a childhood trauma, gets good at pinball, and gets tossed through a mirror. The mirror breaks and breaks his shutting out of the world ending his being deaf dumb and blind. Tommy and those around him propose that playing pinball in a state created by ear plugs and eye shades and a cork on one's mouth will lead to the enlightenment Tommy claims to possess. All Tommy did was begin experiencing the world via senses. It happened not by pinball but by an act of violence. The prescription of pinball could not help anyone even if it did help him any more than throwing people through a mirror would help them. People want enlightenment, people want connection. Tommy who was disconnected suddenly gained connection via his senses. He gained what everyone else had but took for granted. Everyone else wanted the joy he had in experiencing what they took for granted but thought it was something else. The end is that people saw through the BS. The truth is worse than fiction though because playing pinball is not life-altering drugs or surgery. They didn't have Tommy's problem even though we could generalize Tommy's problem to a point where we imagine everyone has his problem.

    The second deception is that the group knows how to deal with the problem. This was I guess my previous comment's first paragraph. A lot of trans people state they were miserable before transition, but if you dare to look over my comments and conversations with a saiditer called Circling My Own Void 2, this person is exceptionally miserable and self-loathing (exceptionally, I don't think this person is typical of trans people, but an outlier on a curve is still on the curve) but CMOV2 insists it was worse before. That might be the reverse of rationalizing bad purchases, where a bad thing we buy we convince ourselves is pretty good to avoid regretting the lost money. But, taking CMOV2's state of misery at face value, that path is not a good one. It can only be sold as such if we accept what is said but not measurable about what was the state of mind before. In any event it is no solution.

    The third deception also comes up in those conversations here with CMOV2 who thinks the current state of misery is because people do not see CMOV2 as a woman and does not treat or address CMOV2 as a woman always or in their minds. If only the world changed and consistently acted towards CMOV2 as CMOV2 wishes, and not as the "equal and opposite reaction" shown to be a law of physics and perhaps of life, CMOV2 thinks the problems would be gone. Obviously this is not true, but TRAs dupe people who go down the path of transition with this nonsense.

    In pursuit of that third deception, they take on a dysfunction where (and this also can be seen in my conversations with CMOV2) they react to "misgendering" (correctly sexing, really) as not an honest reaction by a human to the human they see in front of them, but as an offense against all trans people. Each interpersonal faux pas is removed from the context it is in, where a manly looking person is called a man, and placed into the context of a civil rights struggle of an oppressed group by a group of bigots on the wrong side of history and of some future science that will validate them once and for all. When correctly-sexing someone is seen not as a reaction to how the trans-identifying person is actually seen but instead seen as part of a big social movement, the five o'clock shadow is seen as not the problem to be addressed, the shoulders or limb ratios and all the secondary (or tertiary? I don't know) physical characteristics are not seen as the problem. Those problems bring attention to themselves. Easier to see the problem as those bigots on the wrong side of the version of history, where there freakouts are part of a noble struggle that will be part of that history some day.

    (On a side note, and to end on a tangent, I do think the future's historical version of today is being shaped intentionally by those who are directing our culture, but so much of what calls itself the left now are the cannon fodder and not the vanguard of what I think is a counter-revolution.)