2017 pronoun law unconstitutional to long-term care staff, court finds

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[–]WrongToy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

We were at r/gc when this came up, and from that time to this, I'm wondering WHY. Why this population.

If they're LTCF in California there's usually fecal incontinence plus memory issues! So you know what, FINE, call them "Jessica Yaniv" instead of "Jonathan" and don't say in front of them that they're a "he."

But expecting that fat, deranged, and actually SRSed person to share a room with some woman is ridiculous. Unless it is his mother.

[–]MarkTwainiac 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The why is because women in LTCF are like women in prison: extremely vulnerable, with no escape, no voice & out of sight & out of mind of the general public & the press.

The strategy has always been to use trans ideology to force men on vulnerable women in out-of-the-way places like prisons & nursing homes out of view of the wider public, whilst simultaneously going after young kids by getting gender ideology into the school curriculum & grooming kids into the cult via the internet.

Wild animals prey in the same way: go after the weakest, smallest, slowest member of the pack, the injured & lame ones at the rear. They're the ones who are out the pack leaders' field of vision.

There's also a great scene in the old movie about WWI "Sergeant York" where Alvin York, the ace shooter played by Gary Cooper, explains the best way to kill off a whole flock of turkeys in one fell swoop. You don't approach them head on from the front, you sneak up on them from the rear, then start at the back & pick off the stragglers, slower & smaller ones first. By the time the big, strong grown up guys in the front realize what's happening bullets with their name on them are already airborne speeding right at them. York uses this technique to take a bunch of heavily defended German machine gun & heavy artillery nests, single handedly killing who knows how many & capturing 148 German soldiers as live prisoners.

People in mid-life, who are already overwhelmed with work & family, are going to find themselves having to pick & choose who to try to save most: their tween & teen daughters who either want double mastectomies & T ASAP or who can't wait to get old enough do Only Fans & other kinds of "sex work" - or their elderly mothers in nursing homes being forced to share their rooms, toilets & bathing facilities with perverted het men LARPing as women in order to indulge their AGP & other sexual fetishes FT.

[–]WildApples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The strategy has always been to use trans ideology to force men on vulnerable women in out-of-the-way places like prisons & nursing homes

Exactly. These people are less likely to successfully challenge the requirements, and then they can use those requirements as precedent for their next moves. It is like knocking down dominoes.

[–]WrongToy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

By the time an elder goes to SNF long term, it's usually for fecal incontinence or dementia. Often both.

But even with both, most women are going to be able to recognize that the roommate has a dick. That's IT. If they want to room with someone then find someone without a problem sleeping around strange dick.

[–]MarkTwainiac 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

By the time an elder goes to SNF long term, it's usually for fecal incontinence or dementia. Often both.

I think you are defining long-term care facility way too narrowly. Lots of people in LTCFs don't have dementia. LTCFs include skilled nursing facilities (SNFs), & SNFs in turn include facilities for elderly people with dementia & issues requiring "memory care," but LTCFs for older people are not confined only to those kinds of facilities. The category includes "nursing homes" for older people who don't have dementia as well as many assisted living facilities for elderly people. Many seniors who live, or lived in, LTCFs of one kind or another do not have dementia.

[–]WrongToy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

When they say "LTCF" in county or state speak, I've always assumed it is a county or state facility. But on the meta, yes it involves broad conditions.

Medicare will pay for 28 days in a short-term rehab facility. After that, no one's paying for any full ride SNF unless it is Medicaid. Which is, basically, when you have no options.

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[–]MarkTwainiac 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I read this law as applying broadly to all LTCFs for seniors subject to licensure & regulation by the state of California, not just to those paid for by Medicare or Medicaid & which are considered SNFs. The statute starts out:

Existing law provides for the licensure and regulation by the State Department of Public Health of health facilities, including skilled nursing facilities and intermediate care facilities. A violation of these provisions is a crime. Existing law, the Long-Term Care, Health, Safety, and Security Act of 1973, imposes various requirements on long-term health care facilities, as defined, and prescribes the civil penalties assessed for a violation of those requirements.

Existing law, the California Residential Care Facilities for the Elderly Act, provides for the licensure and regulation of residential care facilities for the elderly by the State Department of Social Services. Under existing law, a person who violates the act, or who willfully or repeatedly violates any rule or regulation adopted under the act, is guilty of a misdemeanor. Existing law also provides for civil penalties for a violation of the act.

Existing law, the California Fair Employment and Housing Act, makes it unlawful to discriminate against any person in any housing accommodation on the basis of, among others, sex, gender, gender identity, gender expression, or sexual orientation.

This bill would enact the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Long-Term Care Facility Residents’ Bill of Rights. Among other things, the bill would make it unlawful, except as specified, for any long-term care facility to take specified actions wholly or partially on the basis of a person’s actual or perceived sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression...

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB219

According to this publication from the state, "two thirds of California’s nursing facility residents rely on Medi-Cal to pay for their care in a skilled nursing facility." So that leaves a third paying in other ways.

Moreover, "the majority" of seniors in California who live in assisted living residences pay for them with private funds.

https://www.cahf.org/About/Consumer-Help/Facts-and-Statistics

Having looked into senior care residential options for family members, & also for myself, I think there's more variety in the sector than many people realize. But all residential facilities will be subject to licensure & regulation by the state in which they are located.

Also, although the number & percentage of US residents overall who have private long-term health care insurance policies is low, it's much higher amongst people of means who do retirement & estate planning. People who can afford the premiums (usually $1500-2000 per capita per annum) are frequently encouraged to buy policies for themselves once they reach a certain age (usually the drumbeat starts after you turn 50, but it really ramps up big time once you hit 60 - & supposedl the best time to buy a policy is between 60 & 65). Moreover, a number of corporations & businesses provide such insurance as part of their standard benefits & retirement packages. My father got LTC insurance (for himself & spouse) as a retirement benefit from the company he worked for - & he retired in the early 1980s, so it's not a perk that only became part of benefits packages recently.

As is always the case, people of means have many more options than people who don't.