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[–]FlippyKing 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why make the "even if true" concession without any solid evidence? What study shows that it is the case? There is no way the trans activists want to get into those details. First off, I remember being told AGP does not exist. Admitting it exists is the first step to see how it is EVERYWHERE in trans circles and how indulging it instead of confronting and dealing with it is ruining everything. There is no way team T wants to open up that can of worms. What studies show women have it, and if they do how valid are the studies? How well are the results reproduced by other researchers? I could imagine a self-reporting survey with no real control over who is responding and what sex they are, that a bunch of creeps claiming to be women will be AGP. I feel like that is a real stretch of the definition to say women 'could' have it if you do nothing more than translate the latin components of the word into English. There's none of the fantasizing about genitals that dudes with AGP are engaged in.

[–]lefterfield 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I believe it was one "study"(a survey handed out to a few women at a mall) where the traditional questions to determine male autogynephilia were changed to things like "do you think about sex when wearing sexy clothes?" Nothing about whether they were attracted to themselves - and even if they were, there's a difference between thinking YOUR body is attractive and thinking you'd be attractive if you had someone else's body. It's just not possible for women to have autogynephilia, there's no way to compare the male experience of it. They could have autoandrophilia, but there's very few studies of this that I've heard of.

[–]GConly 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I believe it was one "study"

Paper by Moser.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19591032/

Debunked by Ann Lawrence, a transwoman with AGP. The debunk is called "Something resembling autogynephillia".

Lawrence did a pretty thorough hatchet job on the BS in Moser's paper.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00918360903445749?journalCode=wjhm20

The full text is on a PDF somewhere.

If you want to read up on AGP Lawrence's work on is a must.

[–]lefterfield 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you!