To people in the radical feminist community who supported Anita Sarkeesian for all these years, this is how you get rewarded

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[–]bolla_top 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why do so many women (or anyone really) feel this way? Why do they believe people like the guy from the spa are really women? And why are they so passionate about it? I just don't understand.

[–]lefterfield 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I have to think it's either fear or cognitive dissonance. I know a person, hardcore leftist, who doesn't like the idea of men in women's spaces, and knows that the trans junk is nonsense. But the moment I point out that it's the left pushing for it, she starts accusing me of lying. shrug People don't want to confront the reality that they may be supporting terrible ideas/ideologies.

[–]soundsituation 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

fear or cognitive dissonance

Definitely agree that these are both major factors. With regard to the latter, I think it's also the cognitive dissonance of smelling bullshit but at the same time believing that exclusion = hate and disagreement = discrimination.

But the moment I point out that it's the left pushing for it, she starts accusing me of lying.

This is so weird that I wonder if you two are defining terms differently. Maybe your friend is an old school, class-first, r/stupidpol type of leftist rather than a woke intersectional leftist? It would be interesting to know who she does think is pushing for this stuff.

[–]lefterfield 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Family, not friend. And she'd be the former, and frankly not very bright. Literally the only "news" she reads are hardcore propaganda from left-wing sources. I have no idea how she realized the trans stuff is BS, or how she doesn't make the connection... but given how many other contradictory things I've known her to say, it's not THAT surprising. I guess she picked up on the 'men in women's spaces' thing and reacted to that, but didn't do any research into how it was happening.

[–]xandit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Who does she think is pushing the trans stuff? Right wingers?

[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I genuinely don't know, her thought process is hard to follow.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I never followed Gamergate so I don't know the full backstory, but I'm mind blown that this is the incident that transactivists and libfems are choosing to double down on. What 'violence' is Anita referring to? These people must realize that incidents like this cost them public support, and are desperate to re-frame the narrative.

I'll be curious for Graham Linehan's take on this. He was deeply involved in the whole Gamergate saga for a time, and has spoke of regretting it.

[–]ZveroboyAlina 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The thing that she and Zoe were victims of GamerGate and on opposite side, among bullies - transwomen were in big numbers. Their houses were stalked, windows broken, both moved from their homes to new ones in secret, so they are not harassed, Zoe was physically attacked over it. And whole story was fabricated by former Zoe boyfriend, who was crowdfunding on 4chan campaign against her, every claim there was just a lie (especially one about "bad journalism", because Kotaku never had an article about her games and she never had a voice in big media UNTIL GamerGate happened).

And then, years later, Zoe became "non-binary" herself and recently had an outrcy about "I am not a woman anymore, then why harassment haven't stopped? It is transphobia now, I think!" - and now focused on "transphobia" against her, not realizing that nothing has changed, she was attacked for being a woman and now she is attacked for the same reason, not because she "transitioned" her pronouns. And Anita became super corporate, other women on her channel were getting small income, while she was taking all the money, then she went to work with big corporations like Ubisoft or Activision, who are known for their hate of women, so she started supporting the very people who transformed her life into living hell just few years before that.

[–]slushpilot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He was deeply involved in the whole Gamergate saga

Not quite "deeply involved". I think he just misread the situation and accepted the media's position on it until he realized what was happening.

[–]GConly 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fuck you Anita.

This legislatiohas made it legal for men to indecently expose themselves to women and little girls, and to be in rooms with naked women who gave zero consent to be seen naked by man, and little girls who should never be naked in the presence of a naked man.

[–]FlippyKing 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What I can't get is: how deep in the woke bubble must she be to think this is can even appear to her audience as an accurate take?

I used to be on twitter long ago, and I know nothing about video games and thought when I saw her videos that she was presenting something accurate. It seems she did not. But the "girl gamers" that attacked her seemed really ... loud. I also didn't know anything about how many guys insist on pretending they are women on the internet. These monsters are not her audience, so maybe this isn't about her continuing to cultivate her audience. She's really just lost in the woke bubble. You can't go from worrying about sexist violence in video games to blaming women for protecting little girls from swinging dicks in locker rooms.