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[–]WildApples 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Trans issues currentlly trumping all other civil rights issues, which I believe is the case precisely because it allows the most privileged members of society (i.e. men, especially white and straight) to center themselves in the civil rights arena.

Claiming to want to be treated like women but then getting to opt out of being held to harsh feminine beauty standards by claiming such standards are transphobic.

Getting away with threats of violence on Twitter while women get banned and sometimes even terminated from their jobs for expressing non-threatening opinions about gender.

Their pain and discomfort being prioritized over women's so that women are forced to stop talking about our own identities and experiences to avoid triggering them. But if we say we don't like being called "cis" or the ways that some TWs are reinforcing sexually objectifying and degrading stereotypes about women, no one cares about our discomfort.

Violence against trans being taken more seriously than violence against women even though women experience a higher rate of violence. Society choosing to place TWs in women's spaces to avoid violence to them while comepletely ignoring the resultant risks of violence to women.

That society thinks that a TW's need for validation is more important than a female rape or domestic violence victim's need to avoid being retraumatized.

TWs getting to claim insight into women's experience despite not having any such experience, and then having objective scientific, medical, and social definitions and norms changed based on their supposed insights. Meanwhile, women have often had to fight (and are still fighting) to get official recognition of our experiences.

TWs getting to be super aggressive and even violent and not having it held against them.

Having a physical advantage in sport and getting to exploit that advantage to take women's spots and awards. TWs getting heralded as champions when their performance is just mediocre by biological standards, which is a privilege no woman will gets to experience.

In male-dominated tech spaces like Reddit, automatically fitting into the boys' club culture because they were conditioned as males.

TW getting to flaunt their sexual proclivities publicly and not have it held against them in politics or employment the way women do.

TWs feeling proud and validated at being sexually harassed in contrast to the fear and shame that women often feel at being harassed, presumably because they have the privilege of not having to live in fear of male violence all their lives like we do.

TW not being socialized like many women have been and continuing to behave in a traditionally masculine manner (dominating conversation, expecting women to emotionally prop them up, not doing their share of housework, etc.).

I could probably go on, but generally they continue to have very privileged, male expectations of being prioritized and centered in interactions, and those expectations are routinely fulfilled in way that few women ever get to experience.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you so much for this, it really does paint the picture and puts it all out on the table. I nodded as I read through this because I've seen all these examples you listed and how it does trace back to male socialization and how they're using that to exploit women. I just have one thing to ask.

TWs feeling proud and validated at being sexually harassed in contrast to the fear and shame that women often feel at being harassed, presumably because they have the privilege of not having to live in fear of male violence all their lives like we do.

This one is one of the first things I've witnessed when it came to peaking me. I noticed how so many TIMs loved to be catcalled or sexually harassed or sexually degraded whereas women didn't like this at all. I won't say all women but I mean majority and then the TIM and other men couldn't understand why women don't like that kind of attention. To them it's some sort of sex thing but to women, it's fear and that's something that they couldn't grasp.

TW getting to flaunt their sexual proclivities publicly and not have it held against them in politics or employment the way women do.

Do you think that if it came out that someone like Caitlin Jenner had all this AGP related material in his belongings, do you think people would see him differently or hold it against him if he were running for Governor? I know he's running right now but say it got slipped of his AGP fetish to the public, do you think it would tarnish his chances of winning?

[–]YourSister 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

do you think it would tarnish his chances of winning?

Unless the tide turns rapidly, no I do not. They don't care that just before his "transition", he killed a woman in an accident, which has been mostly swept under the Caitlyn rug.

The constituents will chant "TWAW!", and that his behavior was because Caitlyn is a poor TIM, and <insert whatever logic twist they are using to excuse men's disgusting fetish behavior once again>. Probably something about him being so oppressed at winning a gold medal, in a penis-only sport, when he was always a woman, made him act out. Or he'll blame his wives or daughters. The AGs follow such a pattern.