Manipulative, abusive issues with the trans movement

submitted by BovineFeminism from self.GenderCritical

Obviously, all of this has been said before, but this is the perfect place to let out steam. Please indulge me.

I'm so fed up with every large space being turned into a trans echo chamber. Every single large group where I've been a member, trans activists have ended up taking over, no matter what the topic of the group was to begin with. Every single one! Suddenly the whole group is about how trans people don't feel 'safe', and that anyone who is critical or even confused by their behaviour is transphobic. So people with questions need to be cancelled ASAP, and the trans movement dogpiles on these individuals like you wouldn't believe. People are evicted from the groups for asking questions, or for not being 'pure' enough for the trans movement.

I've been member of groups devoted to women only where the moderators wanted to be nice, so they also accepted non binary people and TIMs. Of course, it would only take one or two months before a trans activist got upset that the group name was "Women's group," so it needed to be changed into "Women's and non binary people's and TIM's, and anyone who identifies as any of these terms' group." And then some poor woman would write a post starting with "Hello ladies," which would also be horrifically offensive to the trans activists. So the group would then overflow with discussion threads about how the trans activists feel unsafe, how people want to erase their existence, and how transphobic this or that person is.

And every single time the statistic that trans people are more likely to commit suicide is brought out. How is weaponising a statistic in this way STILL acceptable? There are so many problems with even using this statistic:

  1. So apparently trans people are so fragile that they can't stand any type of questioning (even just a question like "Why are you posting about your personal trans issues in a group about shoes for cats?"). They're so fragile to the point that they will hurt themselves if they receive any questions at all. To me, this actually points to mental issues with THEM, not with anyone else. They probably shouldn't be allowed in public without a guardian.

  2. If trans people are more likely to commit suicide, shouldn't they get help for that? Actual THERAPY?

  3. If a significant other were to tell you "Do this and that, or I will kill myself," in absolutely every other situation this would be labelled as ABUSE, but for some reason it's not when the trans movement does it.

But the truth is, trans activists are manipulative, abusive and very narcissistic. They need to turn every space into their own reflection. This is also my huge problem with gender studies: it's full of people only studying themselves! Get over yourself already!

From what other groups in society would this type of behaviour be tolerated?

By the way, my pronouns are FUCK YOU and FUCK OFF ALREADY.

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[–]JulienMayfair 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

In a way, my post today and yours parallel each other. I'm coming to the conclusion that gender identity has become a way for people who are legitimately mentally unwell to demand attention from the world for their internal distress, while, at the same time, avoiding naming it because it's too painful and overwhelming to try to name and confront it directly. Thus, attempting to control others' behavior becomes for them a way of managing their internal distress -- which it is for narcissists. That is why narcissists do what they do. Their self-image is fragile and must be protected at all costs -- in order to avoid dealing with their own fractured internal reality.

You might say that gender identity is becoming a kind of expressionistic theater movement, and we are the unwilling audience.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I had similar thoughts about this. People don't know how to interpret statistics, the trans population is small, so the statistic is going to show there is a high suicide rate. It reminds me of how I was asking about the differences in counselling between indigenous and non-indigenous Australians (and the problems which impact indigenous Australians are the same as what white Australians face today) and I got accused of bigotry. It's like you start questioning anything and you get accused of bigotry and if you point out the insincerity of some woke movements (I live in a state where they plaster only one of the names of the Aboriginal groups in as much public places as they can and every university lecturer references the original owners of the land at the start of every lecture slide, even though originally there were three groups, but one campaigned enough or had enough evidence to prove it's their land) everyone from the oppressed groups and non-oppressed groups get offended. Questioning woke movements are pretty hard to do because of the backlash.

[–]BovineFeminism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Questioning woke movements are pretty hard to do because of the backlash.

Yeah, precisely. Or even just questioning the behaviour of certain members of the woke movement, it's often compared with violence. It's really crazy.