Celebrity TiM Chelsea Manning "we need a “trans day of rage...” (wouldn't that be every day?)

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[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 5 fun23 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Someone in the replies:

Continue to educate people on trans Transgender flag will generate more support! Knowledge is power.

They still don't get that it's people being educated about trans issues that pushes them to oppose trans ideology.

[–]milknciggies 15 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

The Purge: Tranarchy

[–]pancakewaffle 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I don't wanna be a recognized market demographic. I wanna break shit.

Same person immediately after posting that:

Hi I'm trans and my unemployment is fucked up right now, I'm open for commissions if you have anything to spare.

[–]1st_Class_Mail_Ally 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Oh no 0.5% of the population is gonna rise up and break shit! Just right after we put on our sephora lip gloss and inject our girl juice. Yea right.

[–]RiverSong 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The problem is that 0,5% does not include all those who are gaslighted into believing the bullshit they spew, and all of those that are too afraid to be cancelled and chastised when they speak out against the TWAW/TMAM-crowd.

[–]SnowAssMan 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Chelsea Manning is more than a mere "celebrity", he is an American hero, but that doesn't make this "trans day of rage" thing any less insular to the point of deluded hysteria.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"I'm co-managing my college's instagram story today and it's gonna take a lot of effort not to just scream about how terrifying it is being trans right now."

Colleges are pretty supportive of trans and seem to prefer to adopt their ideology so they maintain their good PR images, I doubt this guy is going to have any trouble at all.

[–]censorshipment 4 insightful - 8 fun4 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 8 fun -  (12 children)

we need a “trans day of rage” that lets us be free to let out our collective frustration at what being reduced by this system to either being commodified products and brands or to be voiceless consumers of meaningless streams of content while we desperately fight to survive

This is exactly what I want as a black person, a lesbian, and a woman. I want three separate days to just rage without being accused of (anti-white) racism, heterophobia, and misandry. I cannot believe white fragility, straight fragility, and male fragility are taken so seriously in 2021. Years ago, saying "white tears", "straight tears" and "male tears" were okay. Now, it's hate speech. 🥺 Oh, and Karen is considered a slur by feminists... I want to say Karen without being accused of misogyny.

[–]whateverneverpine 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, 80% of the time, Karen is a misogynistic slur.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I find it insulting considering I was raised to avoid being like the purported stereotype by someone with that name (and no, she's not a bitch with a false sense of entitlement). Funny thing, a male did use that (my bag was a hand me down and it had the name) to misname me to bully me back in highschool before the name recieved it's colloquial meaning and it became a slur.

[–]whateverneverpine 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I find it insulting as well. Middle-aged women and up can be sandwiched between generations, caring for them - they are like granite, bearing up under all the expectations put on them to help OTHERS (not themselves), and then have Karen thrown in their face when asserting themselves in public. As a side note, I also hate any self-care being cast as "you have to take care of yourself before you take care of others," like the only purpose of women taking care of themselves is so they can be better at taking care of others, and be even more burdened and taken advantage of!

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't see those types of post as that, I saw it as a campaign against the mentality of helping people at the cost of your own health (sort of a "save yourself before you save others" thing). I remember there were a lot of posts talking about how people self-sacrificed themselves to help others around the time that self-care post came about. Other people like helping others, but you can't stop them, so you might as well tell them to help themselves before they help others.

Edit: Forgot to put down that some people respond to those posts saying they feel a bit guilty and can't help and cite whatever personal problem like a disability as a reason.

[–]lefterfield 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Karen has no real meaning beyond 'bitch.' It's used by men against women of all races, and by women against women of all races. Personally I don't care who you call Karen, but all it says to me is that you hate that particular woman. Not that they were racist, or white, or did anything wrong - because that's not how it's used the vast majority of the time.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I lose respect for people who adopt normal names as slurs. My thought is "Really? Are you so stupid to not be able to make one up?". They didn't even try to cleverly alter the name so it becomes a pun, they just took it as it is and gave it a new meaning, which shows how stupid they are.

[–]lefterfield 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

To be fair, if we are going to start saying "white tears" etc. we should be able to say "black tears" and other [insert name of race] tears. We start policing language, we should police all language.

Edit: Wording

[–]SnowAssMan 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That would be like saying "black privilege", or "sexism against men". It's all a way of undermining the idea that inequality exists. Context matters.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We can point out inequality without being hypocritical. Hypocrisy actually puts people off from the movement. We're meant to be fighting for rights, not kneecapping the ability for people to point out bullshit and if one day our minority groups starts demanding bullshit rights (much like what trans people are doing today), I would rather people outside our own group feel comfortable campaigining to counter it.

[–]SnowAssMan 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But you're making it seem like if we say "white tears" we have to start saying "black tears" too, in order to "restore the balance". In its proper context however, that suggestion would be restoring the imbalance. "White tears" is already a move to restore the balance. Yes, it's "hypocritical", but that's kind of the point. It makes white people feel othered. It's a taste of their own medicine.

If instead of feeling like you're being taught a lesson (as a white person by a minority group) you instead feel the need to teach them a lesson for how they made you feel, then you're missing the point entirely, which only further justifies the making of it in the first place.

It's like with "all lives matter", only someone completely out of touch with reality would get offended by 'black live matter'.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I want three separate days to just rage without being accused of (anti-white) racism, heterophobia, and misandry.

Y'all folx had all last summer to rage. Over a gay-for-pay pornstar ODing on meth and fent. And Cheeto Hitler did nothing about it.

And you can say anything you want about white people, without any consequences, so long as you don't mention a very specific type of white person.

[–]absoluteblasphemy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think Manning and other ex-military TIMs highlight a lot of the very apparent problems with transitioning. Lots of men unable to cope with the kind of masculinity or trauma that comes to them in military situations, attempting to escape into Anima led fantasy.

They worry me the most because they’re often people inclined to anger or violence, and now the trans identity and the trans cause is the only way it’s able to manifest.

It’s honestly disgusting that a profession as prone to PTSD as the military allow people to go through with transitioning. It’s endemic, it’s reactionary.

Do you reckon if you told half of these lads when they joined that they’d leave as a “woman” that they would see any sense in that? Highly doubt it.

[–]emptiedriver 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

how many "trans day of.."s are we going to have? You already co-opted all of pride and women's history, and created days of remembrance, visibility, against transphobia, for awareness, and on and on... If you're angry, work through it and discuss the issues instead of celebrating a government stamped proclamation of it.

Things just keep getting dumber