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[–]MarkTwainiac 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is so offensive towards - and completely erasing of - the "lived experience" of the hundreds of millions - billions by now? - of female people who during their pregnancies since the 1960s/70s have undergone standard forms of pre-natal fetal scanning via sonograms as well as all the other procedures that allow for genetic testing of fetuses - amniocentesis, chorionic villi sampling, NIPT.

I had CVS when 8-9 weeks pregnant 30 years ago; it's an invasive procedure that's awkward, somewhat painful and highly anxiety-producing for pregnant women. I chose not to be told the sex, but I was fully aware that the lab had ascertained it and that my ob-gyn knew it and it was in my records 30 weeks before I gave birth.

This framing is also highly offensive towards - and erasing of - "the lived experience" of all the women with histories of miscarriage who've had to collect the fetal remains in their hands and bring them to the doctor or hospital in order to get them genetically tested. And for all the women who for one reason or another have gone through the tragedy of their child dying in utero just before or during birth, which traditionally has been called "stillbirth."

One of my sisters with a history of miscarriages lost pregnancies due to what turned out to be sex-linked genetic defects. A good friend who had undergone amnio and knew with 100% certainty she was having a son went through the agony of him dying inside her 16 days before her due date.

Women in such situations are routinely told they didn't really lose a child when in fact it's known with scientific certainty that the child they lost is a son or daughter. The new ideology that falsely claims that no one knows fetal sex until birth just causes more suffering for these women. It's a smack in the face to all the millions/billions of women who've undergone the prenatal scanning and testing that have become standard parts of pregnancy in countries with decent medical care in the past 40-50 years.

[–]GConly 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Do they have a peepee?

Then it's a human with a peepee. Not complicated.

[–]BEB[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Should we tell CNN "journalists" that sex testing is available in the first trimester of pregnancy, or just let them keep on embarrassing themselves with this rot?

[–]GConly 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think we should make up a "list of shame" so we can take the piss out if this BS relentlessly when this collapses in on itself.

Future employer:

So... You can't tell if someone is male or female? You think other people can't? How are we supposed to take you seriously as a journalist then?

[–]BEB[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Great idea!

That being said, a good % of the US journalists who enthusiastically and knowingly promoted the lies that led to Iraq War II are still in positions of power. Looking at you, Brian Williams.

[–]BEB[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Josh Barro, who hosts a show that broadcasts on some NPR affiliates, questions CNN's nonsense:

https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1377040671261986824

NPR will probably fire him for his gender heresy.

[–]akkordeonplayer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Way to make yourselves totally irrelevant to the majority of the public, CNN.