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[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Some other sources:

https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/History-of-Womens-Public-Toilets-in-Britain/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-41999792

https://womansplaceuk.org/2020/02/29/women-have-right-single-sex-toilets/

https://theweek.com/articles/621109/brief-history-ladies-bathroom

https://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/discover/womens-right-work-toilet-bathroom-victorian-london-wwi-factory-protest

BTW, I do not necessarily agree with or endorse all the views in all these sources. Just trying to add perspective.

The paper below argues against sex segregated communal/public toilets supposedly from a feminist perspective. The author's position is that girls & women won't be regarded as being of equal human worth and deserving of equal rights as boys & men so long as we don't share toilets with them.

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/files/tperae.pdf

But whilst the author notes that there are often differences in the types of clothing worn by males and females using toilets, she does not acknowledge all the significant biological differences between the bodies of two sexes that might reasonably require different kinds of provisions.

The fact is, a main reason males and females have different toilet facilities is coz we have totally different urinary anatomy. This means mean we pee differently. Whilst this author does note this, she seems to think a good solution for long women's loo lines is for girls & women to use devices like she-wees so that we can use urinals designed for male urinary anatomy.

Moreover, she overlooks that girls & women have additional bodily processes to attend to in toilets that go beyond "just needing to pee" or taking a crap as is usually argued. These additional bodily processes that female people need to attend to include menstruation and cleaning menstrual blood from clothing, menopausal and fibroid-related flooding, pregnancy, miscarriage, lactation & breast leakage, piles & incontinence due to birth injuries & aging, post-birth vaginal bleeding, vaginal infections, pudendal neuralgia, much more frequent UTIs than males experience and so on.

To this author, a/the main reason female people take longer in the toilet is coz some of us wear constricting clothing that's hard to get in & out of like pantyhose (which she doesn't seem to realize were only invented in 1959 & very gradually became widely adopted over the course of the 1960s & 70s). In her view, a major difference in male & female toilet provisions worth mentioning is the presence and size of the mirrors. But she pays no mind to the need to provide girls & women with sanitary bins for menstrual products as well as with toilets with (clean) seats that people with female bodies can feel comfortable sitting on.

Similarly, she makes no mention of the fact that female people have different needs and vulnerabilities at different times in our life cycles. Girls going through puberty and learning to deal with their periods might be much more self-conscious and uncomfortable about their bodies in the presence of males than they'll be later in life. Young girls are preyed on not just by garden variety male sex perverts, but by pedophiles & hebephiles too. Yet at the same time, girls & young women are the group least likely to have the knowledge to spot sex predators & the skills & confidence to try to fend them off that older, more experienced women often have.

Other women at different stages of life have different vulnerabilities that don't apply to all female people at all ages and in all circumstances. Such as women who are heavily pregnant, have a child or several kids in tow, or are elderly and frail and have issues with balance and diminished eyesight

[–]WildApples[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for all the info!