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[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (17 children)

Nature itself hates cis men. Biologically speaking the female is the default, and the male is a modified version of the female designed solely to help her reproduce. As such, nature doesn't really care about the male any more than what he does for women and children. Men do not have the ability to cope with stress and emotions and are explosively angry and prone to depression due to how our brain is wired, and yet we're the ones expected to be stoic and never have any problems. We have productivity issues because our body is designed to rest as much as possible for hard labor. We are usually fairly stupid. And society also doesn't care about us. A woman can often get whatever she wants on a golden platter, and if that doesn't work she can just cry about it and you're a monster if you don't give in. While a man can go die in a war or suffer the worst torture imaginable--with lower pain tolerance, mind you, both mentally and physically--and no one will give a shit; in fact, he will be punished if he doesn't suffer, without complaint. Women can get away with almost anything with no consequences, even serious crimes, or if they do get in trouble it is barely a fraction of what men get for the same thing. Often they even hold a man responsible for a woman's actions, because how could you lock up a sweet innocent woman, blame this ugly man instead! Now repeat after me, "male privilege!".

[–]MarkTwainiac 16 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 5 fun -  (16 children)

A woman can often get whatever she wants on a golden platter, and if that doesn't work she can just cry about it and you're a monster if you don't give in. While a man can go die in a war or suffer the worst torture imaginable--with lower pain tolerance, mind you, both mentally and physically--and no one will give a shit; in fact, he will be punished if he doesn't suffer, without complaint. Women can get away with almost anything with no consequences

I suggest you look at the mass rapes and abuse of women and girls that men routinely commit in war. Look what the Japanese Imperial soldiers did to the women of Nanjing, China in WW2, and to the Korean women they forced into prostitution for the Japanese troops. Look at the mass rapes of German girls and women that Soviet troops committed at the end of WW2. For present day examples, look at the what ISIS and the Taliban have done to women in war.

Also, look into history and world events more generally.

When I was growing up in the US in the 1960s, American women had no right to legal abortion - and it was legal to fire female employees from their jobs and kick girls and women out of school for getting pregnant. Girls and women who got pregnant when they weren't married were scorned as sluts, privately and publicly shunned and sent away.

In Ireland (both the republic and NI), girls and women who got pregnant outside of marriage - or merely had the temerity to flirt with boys - were locked up and enslaved in places the workhouses known as Magadelene laundries and institutions called mother & baby homes. Those who gave birth usually had their babies taken away against their will and given to married couples for adoption. Many of the children who were not adopted out died due to malnutrition, lack of medical treatment, abuse by officials and other suspicious circumstances.

For decades, the stories of these places and the atrocities carried out in them, were largely unspoken — despite calls from the mothers who became virtual prisoners within their walls and children who spent their earliest years there, later sharing stories of neglect and abuse.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/world/europe/ireland-mother-baby-home-report.html

The Magdalene laundries remained in operation until 1984. The mother and baby homes until 1998. More than 56,000 girls and women in Ireland ranging in age from 12 to 44 were sent to these institutions for getting pregnant outside of marriage, or sometimes just for having flirted, kissed or been sexually abused by boys or men (including priests and other clergymen and their own brothers and fathers). But not a single one of the boys and men who had sex with these girls and women and fathered their children suffered any negative consequences whatsoever.

In most of the West, women only got the right to vote in national elections 100 years ago - and this right certainly was not handed to women "on a golden platter." In my own lifetime, girls and women lacked basic rights like the right to attend certain schools and study certain subjects, the right to apply for certain jobs and enter various professions, the right to get a credit card or bank loan without a male co-signer, the right to have scholastic sports, and the right to prosecute if we were beaten or raped by the men we were married to.

As for war: what many men through history have suffered physically and emotionally in warfare is horrible. But nearly all wars over the course of human history have been started and waged by men. Used to be, warfare was called delayed male infanticide - a way that older men past their prime could legally kill off young males once they reached the age when they were at their sexual and physical peak and could compete with, challenge or overthrow the older men.

With the exception of outliers like Golda Meir and Margaret Thatcher, few women have started and waged wars coz very few women have been heads of state or commanders of militaries.

Women have always done their bit in various wars in all sorts of ways both on the home front and on the front lines, including serving in combat:

https://www.history.com/news/women-wwii-military-combat-front-lines

https://www.airforcemag.com/PDF/MagazineArchive/Magazine%20Documents/2014/October%202014/1014Witches.pdf

While a man can go die in a war or suffer the worst torture imaginable--with lower pain tolerance, mind you, both mentally and physically--and no one will give a shit

I suggest you spend some time looking into what human labor and childbirth entails for women mentally and physically both as it happens and in the months and years down the line. In the poorer parts of the world today, the leading cause of death for teenage girls is pregnancy/childbirth.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (15 children)

And guess who was forced to endure those wars? That's right, almost exclusively men. And that's still the case. My female friends who are exactly like me have a right not to be forced into war but I have to sign up for selective service just because I have a dick.

Rape happens when mens' overactive sex drives malfunction, coupled with how testosterone destroys half the brain including almost everything emotional or empathetic. The reason men are more desperate for sex is because that is biologically their sole purpose in life. And your rape stats are certainly wrong, because when a woman rapes a man she gets away with it, and in fact HE usually gets accused of raping her!

The oppression issue stemmed from mens' jealousy of women. Not everyone, but most people, when being jealous behave selfishly and have a desire to bring the luckier person down and see them fail. However our primal instincts were still there the whole time. We still protected women, bought them gifts, and did everything for them like disposable machines. We let them actually have problems and didn't even let men shed a tear, parents even beat little boys to a pulp if they cried about anything while comforting their girls. Women have always been able to get away with more than men, and girls have always been able to get away with more than boys. And pretty much anything is socially acceptable for a woman, but men are expected to fit an extremely narrow ideal of manhood, from infancy. There used to be a lot of standards for women too, but still not even as many as men today.

I should also note, the oppression of women isn't relevant anymore, because it's been gone for over 50 years now. Unless, of course, you believe in reparations and punishing people for what their ancestors did.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

coupled with how testosterone destroys half the brain including almost everything emotional or empathetic.

Testosterone is actually neuroprotective.

And your rape stats are certainly wrong, because when a woman rapes a man she gets away with it, and in fact HE usually gets accused of raping her!

^^ this

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (13 children)

Testosterone is actually neuroprotective.

Incorrect, that's actually estrogen that's neuroprotective. Testosterone is literally poison that kills the body, and since men are expendable our bodies make the sacrifice to become stronger so we can impress girls more. If you happen to not want to do that, too bad, your body will still spend every last resource on that and only that alone till it's the only thing you can do. Men get the rough end of the deal, the only thing women have to deal with is their uterus and less physical strength, both of which are easily treatable with modern innovations.

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[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (11 children)

https://news.yale.edu/2006/09/26/elevated-testosterone-kills-nerve-cells

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2048656/

And testosterone kills all the other organs too. This is why women live longer, and why their hair doesn't fall out.

[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

If you think women's hair doesn't fall out, you are basing your entire view of women on pre-menopausal women and women in robust good health. After menopause, major hair loss is the norm for female people. Same goes for women with many health conditions.

Moreover, women don't live longer coz we have less T than men. It's coz we have XX chromosomes.

Female people are not simply males with lower T, or with male bodies that "boobs and tubes" have been added to as you seem to think.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Female people are not simply males with lower T, or with male bodies that "boobs and tubes" have been added to as you seem to think.

They do both develop initially as neuter, and the male reproductive system and the female reproductive system are almost entirely homologous.

Moreover, women don't live longer coz we have less T than men.

Testosterone might be associated with cardiovascular issues. Women are also smaller - within a species, smaller individuals tend to live longer (it's the opposite between species - larger species tend to have longer lifespans).

[–]MezozoicGay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Men have around 20-30% faster metabolism, faster oxygenization of blood and body, bigger hearts and lungs (if same size and weight as women), faster blood delivery (while women can deliver more blood, just not as fast - I suppose for pregnancy), bigger percentage of red blood cells and faster regeneration and faster life-cycles of cells.

This means that body is oxidizing faster, cells are using chromosomal resource faster.

Only those facts are enough for us to die faster than women. And then we add low payment jobs/military which are exhausing body even faster, bigger risk of heart diseases because of bigger hearts, male on male violence - and we will get number even lower.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

If you think women's hair doesn't fall out, you are basing your entire view of women on pre-menopausal women and women in robust good health. After menopause, major hair loss is the norm for female people. Same goes for women with many health conditions.

It thins but doesn't bald like men.

Moreover, women don't live longer coz we have less T than men. It's coz we have XX chromosomes.

I think it was recently discovered that the Y chromosome doesn't actually do anything, it's the hormones. Everyone is initially female in the womb until the males are flooded with T.

Female people are not simply males with lower T, or with male bodies that "boobs and tubes" have been added to as you seem to think.

I know, you have pretty much everything except uterus pains and physical strength better than us.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Everything is toxic at a high enough dose. At normal levels, testosterone is mostly beneficial.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

But we don't get it at a normal dose, we get 20x more of it.