"Leeza Gibbons Show (1995): My Husband Wears My Clothes"

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[–]censorshipment[S] 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

I don't expect anyone to watch this 40 minute video, but does anyone remember crossdressers being on talk shows in the 90s?

I know many of you support (straight) men wearing whatever they want, as long as they don't identify as trans women... but I agree with a woman in the audience who said the husbands weren't normal. There's a proper way to be gnc, and these men aren't it. They're an embarrassment to the gnc community. Seems like the husbands wanted to mimic/mock/impersonate their wives.

[–]AlexisK 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If man wanted to wear "women's cloths" - he'd buy one to himself to his size, while using cloths that is not your size and that was used already - is clearly fetish. Especially those men, who are not wearing clean cloths, but only ones that were worn by their wives recently.

[–]BovineFeminism 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Seems like the husbands wanted to mimic/mock/impersonate their wives.

I think many trans people are like this too, where they behave like walking parodies of the opposite sex. This seems to be especially common among trans women. Not all are like this, but definitely many.

I don't care if someone cross dresses (or identify as trans), and I don't see anything inherently male or female in any types of clothes, since what's feminine/ male when it comes to clothing is completely cultural. But I do think there's something off when people take on these exaggerated roles, and act as if they're representative of the other sex. It's disrespectful.

[–]BEB 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Every TiM I've seen in the wild, and I've seen quite a few in the last 5 or so years, has been dressed like an over-the-top caricature of a woman. Meanwhile, real women are shlubbing around in whatever's comfortable and presentable just trying to get through the day (work, commute, elder care, childcare, housework -on and on) without collapsing.

[–]Doberlady 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Every TiM I've seen in the wild, and I've seen quite a few in the last 5 or so years, has been dressed like an over-the-top caricature of a woman.

Exactly. What they're looking to get out of being a woman is different from what it means to actually be a woman. They are following a patriarchal idea of what a woman is.

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The worst part (for them) is that they often look clownish or nightmare-ish. I was in a Trader Joes, about three years ago, and this guy emerged from the bathroom.

He was about 6'2" without the 4" heels he was wearing. He was young -probably mid-twenties, -and would have made an extremely handsome, masculine-looking man. Broad shoulders, athletic physique - he looked like he'd maybe played football.

He was wearing an expensive women's blouse, it looked like green silk, with a built-in knotted tie type thing, and a black pencil skirt. With a matching jacket it would have been the sort of power-outfit female lawyers used to wear in the 80s or 90s (can't remember my decades)

He had long brown, healthy hair, and his makeup wasn't too extreme.

But the whole effect was jarring. Here was this linebacker-looking, handsome young man dressed like a character in the movie "9 to 5"

I saw another guy in another Trader Joe's in a different city. (What is it w Trader Joe's and TiMs? - I've seen three) This was an older man wearing a tank top and a short, flippy skirt. He had shoulder length dyed blonde hair, kind of garish makeup, and was a bit overweight.

Whereas the first guy walked and behaved like a bull in a china shop, this guy was trying his best to seem "feminine," but he just made me sad. A bunch of little kids were laughing and pointing, but I think he didn't see them.

I'm all for people wearing what they want, if it's not revealing or whatever, but I have to say, every time I see a TiM I feel like they're appropriating my oppression. And I'm way too old to use those terms ;-)

[–]one1won 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I did watch the video. (I never watched Leeza when it aired. Struck me as tabloid type fair)

1- of course they found a woman to state "cross dressers are superior" ("for balancing their masculine and feminine sides- isn't that what we all" are aiming for?).
2- only the wives said it wasn't sexual The dudes said not a peep on that.

3- gave 1 in 10 stat for men having some variation of this (disorder)

[–]Doberlady 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I remember seeing a crossdresser interview on 20/20 in the 90s also. It didn't seem that bad to me even as a kid.

So if it's really about the clothes, why not just be a cross-dresser? Putting on a dress doesn't make you a woman. You can be a man an wear a dress. So why not do that instead of claiming that you are a woman?