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[–]Rationalmind 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Interesting. I don’t know much about Kate’s parents. I don’t think Kate is all that conniving, and I wouldn’t call her useless. I definitely wouldn’t prefer Meghan’s Californian sjw stereotype. I don’t want the shallow, self-absorbed, attention seeking superficial personality. Maybe the Middleton’s wanted the title to anoint their bourgeois status, but I don’t think Diana loved Charles either. I think there will always be a fatal flaw when looking at a woman who married royal because of jealously. I personally am not jealous and don’t want to be royal and think Kate performs her job well. I like that Kate keeps quiet, is classy and knows how to perform— that’s the job and she performs to expectations. Meghan is off script and disrespectful. I don’t give Meghan deference because of it.

[–]BEB[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've followed the British royal family very casually since Diana first came on the scene in 1980 or 81. I was intrigued by Kate because I was very fond of Diana (I know, I'm a loser - but Diana had insane charisma). I wanted the best for William and Harry as their mother had died so young and so tragically, when they themselves were very young.

Kate did and still does very little in terms of work. For her first few years in the role she did almost nothing that wasn't somewhat fun. She's doing more now and does seem much more comfortable. I think eventually she'll be a good representative of the monarchy (I'm not a fan of monarchies beyond their entertainment value). She's certainly now exhibiting the somber dignity it requires.

Diana dove right in and was a workhorse, who had some remarkable achievements, such as changing the public's attitude towards people with AIDs. She saved lives and exuded glamor, humor and charm while doing it. Kate seems limp and lazy in contrast.

I don't think Kate herself is conniving per se, but she went along with her mother's plans for her. I think she does love William in her own way, but if he'd been an accountant she wouldn't have looked at him. William seems petulant and arrogant, so she probably doesn't have an easy life with him.

I agree regarding Meghan. She is a Whack-tress and her type is a dime-a-dozen in entertainment. I know a person who was a casual acquaintances of hers. This woman (a star F-er herself) said Meghan was pleasant enough, but her conversation was uber-California superficial (juicing, yoga, mindfulness type blah, blah, blah).

She said Meghan didn't seem to have much ambition. This was when Meghan was married to her first husband, who this woman said was a very typical hustler producer type, also a dime-a-dozen in entertainment. She said Meghan completely changed after getting the SUITS role and that her producer husband was blind-sided when she dumped him.

That's my gossip for the day - not very GC but sometimes one has to take a break ;-)

[–]Rationalmind 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Diana dove right in and was a workhorse, who had some remarkable achievements, such as changing the public's attitude towards people with AIDs. She saved lives and exuded glamor, humor and charm while doing it. Kate seems limp and lazy in contrast.

Is there a job expectation that Kate do this? I know Kate does have a charity focusing on children and women. I tend to think it's not fair to hold Kate to Diana's standard (I am indifferent about Diana) and also Diana can immediately jump in when she's been born into the same aristocratic world. Kate, while bourgeoise, was not born and bred aristocracy.

I think she does love William in her own way, but if he'd been an accountant she wouldn't have looked at him. William seems petulant and arrogant, so she probably doesn't have an easy life with him.

Personally, I think that William and Kate have a good marriage and seem to love each other. I don't consider William to be petulant nor arrogant but tend to ascribe those traits to Harry. Because this is subjective, it is a matter of interpretation.

I largely do not care about the interpersonal drama of the royals but because I'm American, I have disdain for Meghan and her behavior when it badly reflects on Americans.

[–]BEB[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, there is an expectation that the "working royals" work - which means everything from attending the opening of factories to being patrons of charities.

Princess Anne, daughter of the Queen, and Sophie, wife of Prince Edward, are hard workers too (well, for royals). I'm not sure if Sophie was born into the working class, but she is the daughter of a tire salesman, and went to secretarial school IIRC, so not from an aristocratic background, although, like many of the British, seems to have distant aristocratic ancestors. Kate does too.

Some of the Queen's now elderly relatives also chipped in and did all sorts of boring engagements.

Kate's work load has been light, but she is improving. She does have three children, but Diana had two and still packed in a a lot of work.

Meghan is just a con artist, IMO. I think some of the sentiment in the UK against her is anti-Americanism, but she does embody some of the worst traits of Americans, so I don't really blame the British, especially since they had to pay for some of her expenses.