We need to talk about SuperStraight.

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[–]purrfect 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I couldn't disagree more. Everything we've been saying has been valid from the beginning. The fact that more and more people are pushing back against QT is proof of that and you can include the SuperStraight meme in that success. There needs to be more push back and, lets face it, "straight males" help in reaching critical mass. Whatever, whoever helps is welcome. The reason it works, because the foundations were already laid by the women working on this for years.

[–]TeaAndCigarettes[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I just spent a few hours in the discord server and after doing so I certainly feel like this movement, as a whole, really does not give a shit about radical feminists but they will happily use our talking points. The moderators also tagged me in posts to remind me that "trans women are women."

The debate jaunted around pedophilia and the overlap between transwomen and those that engage in that behavior which most tended to see the trend of. Myself and a few other radical feminists tried to bring up and discuss the inevitable conclusion of "Why are biological men primarily child predators?" and "Why are men the primary perpetrators of violent crime?" while providing facts and stats about this. It devolved quickly into a mess of "Not all men" and "Women are predators too!" while deny any fact presented and not questioning or even thinking about why the points we brought up are true.

In conclusion, this is a fun experience and a meme for men. They do not care about the people who are actually harmed by TRAs.

[–]Rationalmind 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like they took personal offense.

[–]BEB 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think (and I'm talking about the US here) it's important to remember that many people who latched onto Super Straight are probably young to young-ish so have been indoctrinated into lib feminism/ Queer Theory from childhood, so to them even stating their sexual boundries is a bit taboo.

Then the older people announcing their Super Straightness have been brow-beaten into submission by the nonstop media, corporate and governmental barrage that Trans Women Are Women for the last ten years, and so know not to say the opposite out loud even if they think it's ridiculous.

All to say that, IMO, many people are just taking their baby steps into gender criticism and so what we who are GC can do to help them take bigger steps is maybe not hit them over the head with all we know until they're ready to hear it.