How do you handle women who are in support of "trans Rights" and say that they don't feel threatened by TIMs?

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[–]Britishbulldog 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They’ve got to think about other people. I’m personally not uncomfortable with a TW in toilets (so long as they pass- not the blue hair and beard type, to me they seem quite threatening), and in non-competitive, non or semi contact sport I personally would be okay with a TW. But only in non-competitive circumstances.

I am speaking from a privileged viewpoint myself (never been assaulted by men, live in the U.K., so legally have the same rights). I acknowledge this privilege and listen and consider people who have been affected by these issues. Their testimony outlines why men do not belong in women’s spaces. I am against men in women’s spaces as women with past trauma (DV, rape etc) need spaces away from men and this cannot be compromised. It’s not up to me, issues such as this involve the most vulnerable women in society, many are uncomfortable/traumatised by men in their spaces, their say is final.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Right. Essentially it's about how most women feel and something tells me that there are a lot more women who are bothered by TIMs in their restrooms and sports but are too afraid to speak out so they stay quiet.

[–]aloris342 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly. When girls who speak out are publicly smeared as bigots, then how can we believe that subsequent surveys of girls' opinions or needs will produce accurate results?

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. That's why those so called surveys of how "most women are okay with Transwomen in their spaces" is not accurate because look at what happens to women who do speak out against the ideology or admit they don't feel comfortable with TIMs in their spaces. They get vilified, ridiculed, and harassed. Of course no every day woman wants to get that treatment but deep down they know how they feel even if they don't want to outright say it unless something truly pushes them over the edge. Like how Laverne Cox blamed black women for why black men don't want to sleep with and/or have relationships with them (black trans identified men), that really was the last straw for a lot of black women on that website Lipstick Alley.