Vancouver opens facility for transgender persons only after pulling funds from women's crisis center for 'transphobia'

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[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The irony of course is that trans people will reject trans-exclusive spaces because they want that sweet hit of validation they can get from women's spaces: https://streetvoiceuk2020.wordpress.com/2020/06/19/a-trans-womans-observation-into-the-madness-of-the-trans-debate/

Around 2015 I secured a £500,000 donation from an 80’s pop mogul if the trans community raised the same amount for what would have become the UK’s first trans exclusive refuge. This would have come with services including medical advice, housing advice, trauma advice including domestic violence, rape etc. This was also going to offer temporary housing for 12 trans individuals for up to 6 months. A building was found in the centre of Birmingham.

In fairness some radical feminist women and other left leaning women were happy to help with securing grants and doing all the paperwork. A female lawyer offered her services for free. All this would have saved a lot of time and headaches.

On putting forward this plan to to the trans community they declined this outright. It was nothing to do with the service. They wanted to use women’s services as a means of passing!

[–]MarkTwainiac 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What criteria will be used to decide who gets admitted into this housing facility for "trans, gender diverse and two-spirit" people? How much "transition" will people need to have undergone? How "gender diverse" will they have to be? What proof of being "two spirit" will applicants have to provide? Who will make these decisions? Who will make and enforce the rules of conduct for the facility? And how much abuse will they get?

Getting into this place will require considerable "gate keeping." Being allowed to stay will require following certain rules of behavior and cleanliness, showing regard for one's neighbors and being able to sort out and settle conflicts in calm, reasonable, grown-up ways. None of these things are strong points for most people caught up in the gender cult. I predict this place will fast become a shit show of epic proportions.

Once people are admitted, the amount of drama that will go on in this one building will be off the charts. Hope plans for a reality show are already in the works.

In the 1980s, I worked for an organization in NYC that provided housing and supportive services for people who were homeless and mentally ill - and did advocacy for homeless people more generally. One of the things that became evident early on is that there are many, many drawbacks to housing a whole bunch of people with mental health issues, particularly males, in the same premises where all the residents are maladaptive, poorly socialized, delusional, authoritarian, narcissistic and so on and usually have histories of drug and alcohol abuse along with very high rates of unemployment, criminal convictions, sexual deviancy and sexual abusiveness towards others. A residence exclusively for gender cultists is a place that will concentrate people like that all under one roof - and most of them will be on steroids! Literally on steroids.

I don't mean to cast aspersions on people for having mental health problems. Lots of people have had or now have mental illnesses. Including me. But as someone who has been a psychiatric in-patient and spent lots of times in mental health support groups, as well as having experience working/doing advocacy in this sector, I can attest that an apartment building where all the residents will have have MH "issues," histories of trauma and problems dealing with reality is a recipe for disaster.

Also, rape refuges and domestic violence shelters and most homeless shelters and halfway houses are meant to provide temporary accommodations and services for people in dire straits at particular points in their lives. But this residence sounds like it's going to provide permanent housing for "trans" and "gender diverse" and "two spirit" people. As can be seen from the history of public housing projects like Cabrini Green in the US, and in many other countries as well, concentrating people who all share similar social disadvantages and dysfunctional ways (regardless of the source of the dysfunction) in one building, complex or neighborhood usually doesn't usually turn out well.

The law of unintended consequences comes to mind.

[–]just_lesbian_things 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

One of the things that became evident early on is that there are many, many drawbacks to housing a whole bunch of people with mental health issues, particularly males, in the same premises

I mean, they're homeless for a reason. People aren't refusing to rent to them for fun. Most people also have social networks like friends and family to fall back on (couch surf, basement, guest room, etc). Of course, one could exacerbate the other. The point is, most people don't want these guys around, and there's usually a reason behind it. I had a former roommate, a young woman, who volunteered for a homeless shelter and she was required to stay within sight of her supervisor at all times because there's been instances of sexual assault on the volunteers in the shelter. Obviously, it's probably a worse idea to let these people roam the streets but some people are seriously ungrateful.

From what I can tell, this shelter has individual rooms, which lowers its capacity, but hopefully it will reduce the instances of sexual assault, because a lot of male trans people can be really predatory towards female and male people.

[–]MarkTwainiac 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, we can't speak of "the homeless" as a monolith. Male and female single individuals who become homeless usually end up that way for different reasons than mothers with children, couples with children and single dads with children do. And the age and point in their lives that unattached male and female individuals are in when they become homeless is a big factor too.

From what I can tell, this shelter has individual rooms, which lowers its capacity, but hopefully it will reduce the instances of sexual assault, because a lot of male trans people can be really predatory towards female and male people.

My understanding is that this facility will have all SRO (single room occupancy) spaces. Which means it will be entirely for trans people who are single, excluding couples, throuples, and any parents with children in tow. I think catering to single people will make it a magnet for lone wolf male predators and vulnerable men and women without partners to help defend and stick up for them.