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[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I was a tomboy growing up who ended up in a male dominated profession. So I don't care about the toy thing. The bill isn't just about toys. It's about getting rid of boy and girl clothing sections too, which will evolve into getting rid of men and women section of stores. I don't know about you but I find it pretty convenient to have a ladies section.

[–]Nosce_te_ipsum 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I wouldn't mind there being no ladies' or gentlemen's section for clothing anymore (as long as the changing rooms remain separate), but I can understand people who would. After all, women's and men's clothes are made with different cuts and body proportions in mind, so it's more convenient to know where to look for clothes that might fit you better.

If they weren't fining stores over it, I would, honestly, not even care about this. When you consider the type of stuff so called liberals push for (with domestic abuse shelters, rape relief shelters, prisons, sports, puberty blockers, conversion therapy, etc), I'd be fine living in a world where all they're doing is waging wars on the gendered sections in shops.

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

It's not just about the clothing being cut a certain way that make the ladies section convenient for me. There is the ladies fitting rooms in those sections that make it convenient for me. I experienced one of those "progressive" fitting rooms that allowed men and women, and I was totally uncomfortable.

[–]our_team_is_winning 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Wait until they realize the buttons are on the opposite side for men. How long until "gender neutral buttons" becomes a thing?

[–]Nosce_te_ipsum 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, I agree that changing or fitting rooms need to remain separate, and I mentioned that in my previous comment.

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah I noticed that soon after I submitted the post. I was multi-tasking and overlooked it originally. My bad.

[–]Nosce_te_ipsum 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's ok. I even considered that maybe my comment doesn't show fully (not sure if that's possible, I'm not very Internet savvy), since lefterfield also brought up a point that I already addressed (with the clothes fitting different for men vs women).

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope! Your comment shows up fine, but I do hate how comments are displayed here. It's not easy to see who is replying to who. One of my comments look like I am responding to lefterfield when the response is meant for a dung.

[–]lefterfield 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, that's a good point. There's also the practical consideration of how clothes are sized. I'm all for males being given more colorful clothing or "feminine" styles, and women given more options for suits and Hawaiian shirts or w/e - but male and female bodies are shaped differently. Men's clothes don't fit correctly on me, even if they're the right size.

[–]Comatoast 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Shit. I hate the way that most women's clothing even fits. Trying to find pants that don't look or fit stupidly is a task that requires inhuman effort. Bras are even worse, so I just buy those online.

Men have wider waistlines, big shoulders and accessories all up in their undercarriage. Their clothing accounts for all that but it doesn't account for the way that we're built--which is honestly WAY more diversely.

[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Lol, yeah. I'd love to get really good at sewing and design and just make clothes for myself.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If you've got the patience and willpower, you should try. Plus you can alter things you already own to feel comfortable. I've found that the sewing part is fine, just go slow and steady and you'll get a good stitch. It's the tedium of cutting everything out after making sure everything lines up that destroys me.