California law would fine department stores $1,000 for separating toys by gender

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[–]SpatOuttheKoolaid 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

But how will Munchausens parents justify the puberty blockers if they no longer have "boy" and "girl" toy aisles?

[–]Nosce_te_ipsum 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, it's weird that the "progressives" are supporting this, considering how a lot of trans identified people (or the parents who trans them) insist that they realized they were in the "wrong body" when they started showing preference for the "wrong toys". How else will people know who is a girl and who is a boy, if toys become genderless? Civilizations around the world will collapse.

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The bill isn't just about toys. It's about getting rid of boy and girl clothing sections too, which will evolve into getting rid of men and women section of stores. I don't know about you but I find it pretty convenient to have a ladies section.

[–]our_team_is_winning 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes! The clothing part is being overlooked. I don't want to shop for bras alongside men's jockeys. Well, given that men will be allowed in the women's changing room, I'm sure plenty of them will be trying on bras in there.

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dang I wasn't even thinking about underwear. That's a good point. Since this bill will start out with the kids, I started puberty early, and more and more girls are getting their periods early. I think I started with training bras at 9 or 10. I remember this being an embarrassing phase in my life. I can't imagine if I would have had to do this shopping around boys.

Side note: I am glad I had women in my life that didn't take my tomboy nature and try to reclassify my sex. I really did not like being a girl once I got my period, but not once did an adult tell me I should transition to a boy.

[–]BEB 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hah - thanks!

I was wondering what the purpose of this bill was, and, as I always do with the California state legislature, was searching for the stealth connection to transgenders, because just about every bill the CA legislature passes these days has something to do with transgenders /s but not really...

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly.

Really confusing why the trans-obsessed CA state legislature would argue that kids should play/dress in whatever toys/clothes they choose regardless of sex - am I missing something?

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

The left is moving swiftly. First they said sex and gender are different. Then they said there is no sex; there's just gender. Now there is no gender. Everyone needs to be gender-blind or non-binary when they shop.

[–]adungitit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Uh, yes, everyone should be gender blind and "nonbinary" because gender is a patriarchal load of horseshit. How about actually reading into radical feminism and GC instead of thinking you're welcome just because you don't like trans people?

[–]fuckupaddams 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I think you're misunderstanding her. I had a whole similar argument on reddit yesterday with a woman who said I should be subscribed to r/agender and call myself nonbinary and use they/them pronouns just because I think gender is a load of horseshit. She couldn't believe that I could be female, a woman, use she/her pronouns, and still think gender is a load of horseshit (I'm a woman because of my sex, and my pronouns are sex based, nothing to do with gender.)

I think the person you're replying to is complaining about a similar thing. You don't need to come out as nonbinary and change your pronouns just because you think gender is bs, that's reinforcing the gender binary in a way.

[–]adungitit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Oh, some rando on Reddit thinks women who aren't feminine are agender? Well, I guess that makes all the misogynistic gendering a-okay, then! Let's remove women's voting rights and make them stop wearing pants to show the transes what for, while we're at it!

Toys are not male or female and I don't give a rat's ass that some rando on Reddit says they're some multi-gender unicorn that's ascended beyond our mammalian biology. Repeat after me: Toys are not male or female. This is not about toys being labelled "nonbinary", the article literally does not mention "nonbinary" or "agender" even once, nor any of the trans ideology anywhere, so why you're performing these mental gymnastics and hallucinating that this is about anything other than anger at gender roles being removed is beyond me. You have the article linked, you have the comments, your interpretation of the comments and the article is 100% baseless, stop making things up that are completely unrelated to the text you have at hand.

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Y'all ignore "a dung". It changed its post after I responded. Its original post was along the lines of "you're not a true feminist and you hate trans and you're not welcomed here." Now it is ranting because it got triggered by the words "the left." My post was to highlight how their rules keep changing. So to sum up, here is what a dung really wants to write, "Spicy criticized the left. It offended me because I vote down ballots for Democrats. Now I need to use the left tactic of calling our critics hateful so that everyone else can turn against her. Spicy is racist, ageist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, cisnormative P.O.S. I hope the mods ban Spicy because she said 'the left'. I won't sleep tonight until Spicy is punished for calling me out on my bull. God speed!"

[–]lefterfield 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Lol. I mean, I wasn't completely sure what your original post meant, but I always figure it's best to assume good intentions until there's reason not to. The response to you though was just batshit. I consider myself a liberal, but "the left" these days is definitely not liberal.

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My original post was pointing out the inconsistency as well as the government overreach of the left. Just last week they said little Joey was assigned the wrong gender since he likes dolls and dresses. This week they are telling us that gender doesn't exist in toys and clothing. They are not consistent and need to stop trying to parent the public. I played with dolls, guns, kitchen sets, and legos. But my niece is a straight up girly girl. It's hella convenient for me to filter on "girls" and get her gifts out of the way. Maybe the post would have been better on a political sub, but I just find it funny that they try to acknowledge gender and ignore gender at the same time.

[–]lefterfield 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For sure, that's what I figured you meant. As for the gendered toys, I have mixed feelings. It is convenient to be able to filter girls vs boys if you know the sort of thing you're looking for. I just worry that the separation makes people also conclude that girls ought to play with and boys ought to play with... etc. Not all people obviously.

[–]our_team_is_winning 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Is "dung" a TRA here? I had a different user name person the other day ask me "What women's rights are transpeople taking away?" Seriously?

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I can't tell honestly. A dung said I hated trans before replacing the post with the tirade you see now.

[–]adungitit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lol what? I didn't change my post at all and it's still up there for all to see? What in the world are you talking about?

[–]fuckupaddams 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Toys are not male or female and I don't give a rat's ass that some rando on Reddit says they're some multi-gender unicorn that's ascended beyond our mammalian biology. Repeat after me: Toys are not male or female.

... I know this. You're really not understanding what any of us are saying.

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Or...get this. I have no interest in getting your stamp of approval. I didn't know you existed in this world until you made this silly post.

[–]adungitit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't give a damn about your feewings, though? Like, not even the tiniest little itty bitty bit. I do give a damn that you're a misogynist trying to pass of their conservative worshipping of gender roles in a radical feminist, and gender critical at that, space.

[–]Comatoast 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Barring the bullshit about toys, because who cares.. kids play with what they want anyway, many people would still appreciate being able to purchase clothing separately from their opposite sex counterparts. I don't know about you, but it's fucking great going in the women's clothing sections and watching men veer around to get far away from it. I'd like to personally thank them for the solitude.

What I don't understand is why fining companies for separating shit by gender is taken on instead of removing the sexualization of clothing from girl's clothing. Too many times I've seen MINI mini skirts over there while shopping for my daughter, and these are marketed towards girls that haven't even hit puberty yet.

[–]adungitit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Barring the bullshit about toys, because who cares

Yeah, who in a feminist space cares about sexist baseless gender divisions ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I don't know about you, but it's fucking great going in the women's clothing sections and watching men veer around to get far away from it.

I feel so gender-valid too when I go to the women's section so I can feel so cis and validated by all the sexualised and feminine clothing on display, yasss gurrrrl! 👄

What I don't understand is why fining companies for separating shit by gender is taken on instead of removing the sexualization of clothing from girl's clothing.

You'd think that people ca fight for more than one single change at a time. But nah, let's not do it because there's something else to do.

[–]Comatoast 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, who in a feminist space cares about sexist baseless gender divisions ¯(ツ)/¯

There's some relevant reading you forgot to reference there.

because who cares.. kids play with what they want anyway,

I feel so gender-valid too when I go to the women's section so I can feel so cis and validated by all the sexualised and feminine clothing on display, yasss gurrrrl! 👄

Be a smartass all you want. I'm pretty thrilled about the sex segregation while already performing a somewhat miserable task. Aside from picking up period supplies, that doesn't really happen. And who the fuck feels validated in their "cis-ness" by picking out clothes outside of trans people? You can wear GNC clothes, a burlap sack, or whatever you want. I, too, will wear what I want since there's not a dress code for discussing things within this community.

You'd think that people ca fight for more than one single change at a time. But nah, let's not do it because there's something else to do.

Sure. I guess you could cluster up a bunch of shit and hide it in a Bill, ala the Equality Act changes. Others here have already made these buts but: A) going after retailers just punishes retailers, not the marketing source of the toys, or the ugly pink sequined packaging it comes in. B)I don't think it's smart to let the government dictate what is or isn't gendered. C)I'm worried about my daughter and other girls having clothing marketed towards them that's showing off a completely unnecessary and inappropriate amount of skin-- Whose gaze does that ultimately cater to at 7-14 years old?

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Awww you're cursing. Triggered!

[–]censorshipment 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

Eh, if this will eliminate the pink tax on toys... cool. When I used to shop for my niece and girlfriend's son years ago, I was so upset to pay extra money for my niece's toys. She wanted girly stuff so of course I bought whatever she wanted. Why in the hell aren't women, especially mothers, protesting the pink tax?

As a gnc woman, I rarely shop in women's sections... I've saved so much money buying men's stuff for myself.

https://www.sheknows.com/parenting/slideshow/4257/pink-tax-toys/2/

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I have no idea what the pink tax is. What Democrat-run state imposed that tax?

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I just read about it. Sounds like one of those faux woke terms someone came up with to make a name for themselves. I have shopped for boys and men and noticed no noticeable price difference. My dad and brothers clothes are expensive. Tuxedos usually cost more than bridesmaid dresses. Birth control pills might come out cheaper than condoms. IDK. I'm sure if we all looked hard enough we can find some injustice. I'm black and my hair care products are expensive. So am I suffering from a black tax?

[–]lefterfield 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm not sure how they're comparing it. I happened to look at razors in a store yesterday and noticed that the men's were more than three times as expensive as most of the women's... the men's razors also looked to be much higher quality. I don't think I've seen different prices for the exact same brand, nor that women's were significantly higher. I could be wrong, this is just quick observation instead of a detailed study, but... yeah.

[–]Comatoast 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think that's a curl tax. A ton of women (me included) buy hair products marketed for black women because a lot of the products are just better for textured hair and scalps without all the bullshit. Except polyquats. God, they're in nearly everything and cause hellish buildup.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kids' stuff in general is stupid expensive and cheaply made. I miss the durability and workmanship of the stuff I had when I was a kid.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I see stuff on clearance a lot more often in the girls clothing sections though, so I'll take that win. The boys section is devoid of clearance, or everyone had a boy in this area at the same time as I did.

[–]Nosce_te_ipsum 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I find it weird that toys are separated by gender to begin with. They are toys. When left to their own devices (and if they haven’t already been brainwashed by parents to not touch toys for the “opposite gender”), kids are going to play with whatever tickles their fancy at the moment. This gendering of toys is, more often, done for the parents’ comfort, rather than for the child’s.

I suppose they could separate the toys based on activity rather than gender: puzzles and strategy, “action”, art, etc.

That being said, going as far as to fine department stores for this isn’t the greatest idea. It gives the impression that they are trying to force certain principles down people’s throats (under threat of penalty), and I’m pretty sure that this approach tends to make people more resistant to change.

[–]lefterfield 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Completely agree, that's my problem with it too. We shouldn't have boy and girl isles. Government should also not be oppressive and authoritarian.

[–]WildApples 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That being said, going as far as to fine department stores for this isn’t the greatest idea. It gives the impression that they are trying to force certain principles down people’s throats (under threat of penalty)

That's because they are.

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I was a tomboy growing up who ended up in a male dominated profession. So I don't care about the toy thing. The bill isn't just about toys. It's about getting rid of boy and girl clothing sections too, which will evolve into getting rid of men and women section of stores. I don't know about you but I find it pretty convenient to have a ladies section.

[–]Nosce_te_ipsum 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I wouldn't mind there being no ladies' or gentlemen's section for clothing anymore (as long as the changing rooms remain separate), but I can understand people who would. After all, women's and men's clothes are made with different cuts and body proportions in mind, so it's more convenient to know where to look for clothes that might fit you better.

If they weren't fining stores over it, I would, honestly, not even care about this. When you consider the type of stuff so called liberals push for (with domestic abuse shelters, rape relief shelters, prisons, sports, puberty blockers, conversion therapy, etc), I'd be fine living in a world where all they're doing is waging wars on the gendered sections in shops.

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

It's not just about the clothing being cut a certain way that make the ladies section convenient for me. There is the ladies fitting rooms in those sections that make it convenient for me. I experienced one of those "progressive" fitting rooms that allowed men and women, and I was totally uncomfortable.

[–]our_team_is_winning 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Wait until they realize the buttons are on the opposite side for men. How long until "gender neutral buttons" becomes a thing?

[–]Nosce_te_ipsum 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, I agree that changing or fitting rooms need to remain separate, and I mentioned that in my previous comment.

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah I noticed that soon after I submitted the post. I was multi-tasking and overlooked it originally. My bad.

[–]Nosce_te_ipsum 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's ok. I even considered that maybe my comment doesn't show fully (not sure if that's possible, I'm not very Internet savvy), since lefterfield also brought up a point that I already addressed (with the clothes fitting different for men vs women).

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope! Your comment shows up fine, but I do hate how comments are displayed here. It's not easy to see who is replying to who. One of my comments look like I am responding to lefterfield when the response is meant for a dung.

[–]lefterfield 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, that's a good point. There's also the practical consideration of how clothes are sized. I'm all for males being given more colorful clothing or "feminine" styles, and women given more options for suits and Hawaiian shirts or w/e - but male and female bodies are shaped differently. Men's clothes don't fit correctly on me, even if they're the right size.

[–]Comatoast 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Shit. I hate the way that most women's clothing even fits. Trying to find pants that don't look or fit stupidly is a task that requires inhuman effort. Bras are even worse, so I just buy those online.

Men have wider waistlines, big shoulders and accessories all up in their undercarriage. Their clothing accounts for all that but it doesn't account for the way that we're built--which is honestly WAY more diversely.

[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Lol, yeah. I'd love to get really good at sewing and design and just make clothes for myself.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If you've got the patience and willpower, you should try. Plus you can alter things you already own to feel comfortable. I've found that the sewing part is fine, just go slow and steady and you'll get a good stitch. It's the tedium of cutting everything out after making sure everything lines up that destroys me.

[–]BEB 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The California state legislature would NEVER EVER force gender principles down people's throats under threat of penalty!

Well, except for the law they passed punishing "mis-gendering" with a $1000 fine and (or?) a year in jail.

[–]WildApples 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem with gendered toys was never really with the stores. The toy makers are the ones who advertised and packaged their toys with designations for sex. There was no explicit boy or girl section. The stores just grouped like toys together, which had the effect of making the dolls section overwhelmingly pink and the science sections overwhelmingly blue.

It kind of annoys me, actually. Does this apply to Amazon too? I am guessing not. The brick and mortar stores are hanging on for dear life, and this is just a way to make their existence even more precarious.

[–]BEB 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

California, the state where you get a slap on the wrist for knowingly infecting someone with HIV, but a carer can go to jail for repeatedly misgendering.

And it was the same state senator, who calls himself the lgbT senator, Scott Wiener, who's responsible for both.

Probably no coincidence that Scott Wiener is alleged to take significant campaign funds from Gilead Sciences, makers of the HIV prophylactic Truvada and sponsors of the National Transgender Visibility March on DC. The group alleging this, a California housing org, hired an investigative reporter to look into Wiener's financing.

Californians, please pay attention to what's happening in the CA legislature, and please contact your state representatives when they propose outrages like the laws I mentioned in my first sentence. California seems to often be the laboratory for the madness that infects the world.

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do believe the Equality Act or one of the policies by Biden will also allow those who know they have HIV to pass it on without consequence. It was the part of the act that talked about the decriminalization of HIV. Everyone should pay attention to things that happen in any blue state because it's all about an ideology. Those in California think like those in New York that think like those in D.C. So you're right, the legislation in places like California becomes the legislation of the nation eventually.

[–]SpatOuttheKoolaid 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Weiner is also responsible for writing the bill that allows any male bodied person who either identifies as woman, or even "non binary" into women's prisons. What a gem.

[–]BEB 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, The Wiener never misses an opportunity to endanger and/or humiliate women.

He and this (unmentionable word here) CA state legislator named Toni Atkins, a lesbian who for whatever unfathomable reason also deeply hates women, got the bill through that allowed men to self-identify as women and be housed in women's nursing home and long term care facilities.

Far from being cast into the Outer Darkness for her work to ensure that the most vulnerable women in our society become sexual prey, Toni Atkins is now President pro tempore of the California state senate.

For all its sunshine and "good vibrations" California is often a sinister and sick place.

[–]adungitit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stop separating kids' toys by pink for girls and everything else for boys?

YES PLEASE!

[–]filbs111 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Just separate the toys by sex to avoid the fine, if "sex" is different to whatever concept California chooses to point the word "gender" at this week. Presumably they're playing fast and loose with "sex" too though.

[–]Spicylikegumbo[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The bill isn't just about toys. It's about getting rid of boy and girl clothing sections too, which will evolve into getting rid of men and women section of stores. I don't know about you but I find it pretty convenient to have a ladies section. Also I don't believe in government control. This bill was drafted because one man's daughter said she didn't know why she couldn't play with the toy in the boys section. All he had to do was tell her that was bs and a toy doesn't decide her gender. Instead it wasn't enough for him to parent. He had to draft a bill to enforce his beliefs on the population.

[–]our_team_is_winning 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I stopped looking at toys when they all became made in China, but I still have a thing for toy cars. To be honest, I've never been in a toy section that said "boys" or "girls." What store does that? Maybe I was just looking for the sign that said "cars" and didn't notice some big sign hanging overhead?

And I don't think toy manufacturers are trying to force stereotypes. I think they respond to what sells. If pink items aimed at girls sell, they'll make more of them. Then it will be "well parents shouldn't be buying pink things for girls" -- well, maybe their daughters are asking for them? "Well, that's because they've been conditioned to....." All I know is I grew up in a far more sexist time in America, and I never wanted baby dolls or pink anything. I wanted toy cars and superhero action figures and my parents' only reaction was whether or not they could afford to buy them at the time.

[–]panorama 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As a child in the 1970s and 1980s, Elizabeth Sweet played with a Lone Ranger action figure she’d pair up with Barbie for outings in a toy Jeep, Fisher Price Little People with their perfectly round heads and peglike bodies, and Star Wars figures.

But as her own daughter Isabella, now 12, was growing up, Sweet detected a significant shift in toys: There was a distinctive blue and pink divide in girl toys and boy toys.

“I don’t recall when I was young thinking, ‘That’s not for me because I’m a girl,’ but today the messaging is very clear,” said Sweet, a postdoctoral researcher and lecturer in the UC Davis Department of Sociology. “I think it was something I had noticed for quite some time, but the light bulb moment was when I realized this gender division in toys was something I could study.”

https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/pink-and-blue-toy-divide

Edit: setting kids up for this genderist stuff before the agenda could fully hit schools? (pondering icon implied)

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Wow! Great find!!!

So it's not me having a faulty memory. Back when toys were still Made in USA (in the USA I mean; in UK they would have been made there, etc.), I honestly do not recall any divisions or any emphasis on pink. Although I did have Olivia Stretch Octopus and she was pink. For me it was about how kids treated their toys. The girls would make up stories and put on little plays while the boys would just chuck clumps of dirt at theirs and try to blow them up.

But I HAVE noticed an excess of pink and "princess" stuff the past 10 years at least. Maybe all that pink princess gear was there in the 70s too and I just wasn't interested? Also a lot of mermaid stuff has appeared -- anyone else noticed that? I thought it was just tied to that Little Mermaid cartoon film, but with the UK trans org being "Mermaids," it makes me wonder about the symbolism.

Great link & it led to these: Atlantic: Toys are more gendered now than 50 years ago https://archive.is/1pFr1 Drat, I can't get the NYT "Guys and Dolls No More?" to archive for me. Both are paywalled or limited to 2 free a month etc. If anyone can archive it, please share.

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Only $1000? That's way too low.