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[–]adungitit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It makes me sad when women are convinced that something like this will make people wake up and turn on men. Women have been suffering from male abuse for centuries to the point of needing spaces free of them in the first place just so they could have a semblance of normal public life, and still people gaslight and insist that men aren't a problem, that misogyny isn't widespread and that bad men are "just a few bad apples". I imagine that trans rights are going to come down to how annoyed straight men are willing to get over being pressured to have sex with other men, and that in turn will come down to how successfully their precious porn manages to sell them the idea of these men as superior women, with better faking, more makeup, more surgeries to reach that twisted beauty standard, more submissive and dick-obsessed. Considering how phallocentric and anal-sex-obsessed most "straight" men are, I imagine the "men are superior women"-idea will win out in the end, and it would hardly be the first time in history that men have jacked each other off to this conclusion.

[–]pacmanla 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, that's not happening. Heterosexual men are definitely not going for that & they know it. Which is why they're targeting lesbians & gay men so hard, unfortunately. Once they attempt, what you just laid out, there will definitely be MAJOR pushback (close to a war, & no I'm not being hyperbolic). I also read that something like 60% of trans identified men are still attracted to women, once they "transition". I didn't know this, but I guess that explains their hard on (pun not intended) for lesbians.

[–]BEB[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

According to a survey released in 2015 by US transgender advocacy group, the National Center for Transgender Equality, 63% (IIRC) of US TiMs are attracted to women in some way. IIRC, 89% of TiMs still had their male genitalia. That survey is still often cited today.