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[–]DiscoStegosaurus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I’m sad to say that I honestly believe that a lot of liberal men do hate women. I work in a very woke, very male dominated career, and I’ve noticed a lot of negative thinking in regards to women from my liberal male coworkers. A lot of them seem to only be nice when they think that they have a chance of getting sex (they don’t), and otherwise treat me as though I’m less intelligent or not there. When I was single I was constantly invited out with the group for drinks after work. This stopped as soon as I got into a relationship. I’ve also had three separate guys go off on incel like text tirades because I “led them on.” I just thought that we were friends and treated them the same as I treat any friend. We have two TIMs at work and they all go along with the bullshit, which speaks volumes to me in regards to how they view women. Idk. Sorry for the rant. I never seem to be treated this way by conservative male coworkers or acquaintances. It’s all purely anecdotal, but consistently annoying.

[–]BEB[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's so odd that conservative men seem to be our side in many aspects of this issues, and "progressive" men seem to be using gender ideology as a means to silence/demean/erase us.

However, in my experience, liberal men my age, in my circles, totally get that gender ideology is damaging, but I think I grew up during that very small window when a good % men, especially educated men, actually treated women as close to equals.

Now, I think with violent porn, hook up culture, BDSM, sexting being pushed on girls -all as backlash to the empowerment of 2nd Wave feminism - younger men can get away with calling themselves progressive while being absolute pigs to women.