President Biden Moves to End Female-Only Sports and Services On His First Day In Office — Women's Liberation Front

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[–]Spicylikegumbo 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

We knew it would happen. Everyone here felt like Trump was going to take away abortion so they voted for Biden. America going down the hole quickly.

[–]Finnegan7921 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

For all the recent talk of "The Big Lie"....which side was actually telling them for the past 4 years..."Russian Collusion"...."Illegitimate President"....."The War on Women"..."..."Peaceful Protests"..all bullshit...nearly every "scandal" of the Trump admin was either made up or blown out of proportion and wildly exaggerated. What is true is that Biden just gave the green light to women's erasure. I hate to say it, but I hope some of these uber woke suburban moms wearing their athlesiure gear actually see the consequences of their vote when their precious Madisyn, Cayelynn, Breagan(actual names I've seen), etc get knocked the fuck over on a soccer field by the "girl" who lives three houses away (and is absolutely slaying it like a qween out there !!!!) or the moms get ogled by some perv in the changing room after spin class b/c SoulCycle is woke and doesn't want to lose business. Maybe they'll realize that Orange Man wasn't really all that bad and they fell for CNN's bullshit.

[–]Finnegan7921 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh and another Big Lie was that his administration would have a covid plan. Welp.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/22/biden-says-nothing-can-change-the-trajectory-of-covid-pandemic-over-the-next-several-months.html

[–]Spicylikegumbo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They already have buyer's remorse, but you can bet your bottom dollar that if he runs for a second term, they will still vote for him because they are loyal to Democrats no matter what.

[–]TheBeefBenson 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Why would they think that Trump wanted to take away abortion? I don't recall him having a strong opinion on the matter.

[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think the concern of those who took that position was less with Trump himself than with Pence, and with Trump's increasing reliance on the religious right as his support from many on the secular right waned.

[–]TheBeefBenson 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I have to admit that I didn't see evidence of this reliance or a decrease in support from the secular right. Furthermore I just can't imagine abortion being banned in the states.... it just seems like paranoia tbh. I think the women here who voted for Biden gave in to an imaginary threat rather than keeping focus on the real one. Well, you reap what you sow.

[–]MarkTwainiac 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're probably right. Could be what I am calling "a decrease in support" from the secular right really is just the mixed feelings about the man as a person that have always been there amongst many even on the right, particularly amongst intellectual conservatives. They think he's a clown in many ways, and that many of his followers are yahoos, but they still did/do support him. I did think Trump seemed to reach out more, and rely on the religious right in the last year, what with him bringing that crazy evangelical Christian preacher to the White House for prayer sessions and his big stunt/photo op with the bible at St James church over the summer... But maybe I have misinterpreted that too.

However, I'm not sure the threat to abortion rights that some Biden voters feared was entirely imaginary. Given Trump's age and level of physical (un)fitness, it seems reasonable to think he very likely could have died during a second term and that Mike Pence would become POTUS as a result.

I don't foresee abortion being entirely outlawed in the US, but I do think that SCOTUS might put stricter limits on the time frame for when abortion can be done legally. Which means outlawing abortion as we currently know it in some states. There are currently 7 states where there's no time limit, one state that puts the limit at 25 weeks, and 5 that put the limit at 24 weeks. In the other states, the limit is either 20 weeks or viability.

One of the issues is that when Roe v Wade was decided, the earliest date a fetus could be considered viable was generally agreed to be 24 weeks. Now it's widely considered to be at 22 weeks. Moreover, in recent years there have been even younger premies who've survived, including one born at just 21 weeks.

https://www.today.com/health/born-21-weeks-she-may-be-most-premature-surviving-baby-t118610

One big difference between the old days and now is the invention and availability of a safe morning after pill, Plan B. The fact that it exists, has FDA approval, and is now available OTC (and online) without a prescription to anyone regardless of age makes me more sanguine about the prospect of further time limits on abortion in the US. To us older women Plan B seems like a wonder drug and the fact that it's available in every US state and territory with no prescription or restrictions is nothing short of miraculous.

[–]Spicylikegumbo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because they are gullible and believe whatever the leftists tell them.