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[–]our_team_is_winning 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Trump was like a kid who got elected student body president because he was popular on the playground, but then he realized he was invisible at school board meetings because the well-entrenched bureaucrats have been there literally 50 years and their corrupt system won't even listen to suggestions for reforms.

[–]Rationalmind 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yep. Although, I didn't and don't like Trump, he was a good stopgap on the woke influence. To be honest, I was hoping we'd have a stopgap for another four years and could somehow squelch the Woke's influence during that time. Trump wasn't making our lives materially worse, like Biden did yesterday with that Equality Act EO.

I saw Biden was taking credit for lowering student loans to 0% and deferring payments. His administrtion stole that credit. While, I was told that Betsy DeVos is an evil evangelist (which I haven't looked into but have reset my opinion on her to indifferent), she's the one that deserves credit for the 0% interest on loans and deferred payments during Covid. I don't want a man to take her credit even if I may have a [possibly misinformed] presumption against DeVos.

Biden also announced he's thinking of putting troops back in Iraq. I am so over the waste of money that is foreign wars abroad because it wastes our dollars that should be spent here while also creating enemies who then use America as a scapegoat. Like I wish they'd just tell Big Pharma to buy the damn poppy from Afghanistan and don't steal it in the new Opium War.

[–]WildApples 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

he was a good stopgap on the woke influence. To be honest, I was hoping we'd have a stopgap for another four years and could somehow squelch the Woke's influence during that time.

On influence in government, yes. But I think his election intensified woke culture to the nth degree. He was the symbol of all that they hated, the symbol that they could rally against and use to remind potential allies of the danger of not censoring and controlling speech. Once he was elected, woke groupthink took over my social network as progressives felt that everyday was a war against Trump politics, and quotidian conversations were now battles between good and evil. They have spent the past four years trying to ferret out any wrongthinkers who are on the wrong side of the war and punish them to set an example to others.

I am hoping that without such a potent symbol to unite against, their cultural influence will wane just in time to get people to oppose Biden's woke policies.

[–]Rationalmind 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, I considered that but can’t decide what’s more dangerous. It’s easier to fight back against people individually than it is to go and reverse damaging laws on the world. Women and girls will suffer under this. Now, CRT and intersectional training will infect our government.

[–]WildApples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True, but I do not think it is easy to push back against groupthink. When the TWAW mantra has been deeply internalized, logic and facts are of limited use.

I think that by Biden making the issue so central to his platform and creating real-world consequences for people, there will be more pushback from people who previously were never or only superficially involved in the gender discourse. At least that is my hope.