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[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Possibly it's all for show.

The executive order says it doesn't over rule any existing laws.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1352234863240339461.html

[–]wecandobetter 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Go on, keep that head firmly planted up your ass so you can continue to support these people if you want. Myself, I'm going to start working for plan B

[–]nuhuhno 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's really funny, Jet. I don't recall anyone diminishing what was happening in the UK.

This EO also gives the example of a targeted group that has been discussed here before. But, Biden's Administration thinks women should suffer for these poor guys. Somebody's got to pay - so, women!

For example, transgender Black Americans face unconscionably high levels of workplace discrimination, homelessness, and violence, including fatal violence.

Edit. The thing with US Executive Orders is the interpretation and application of existing laws. So... this "get out" would only be utilized for a big or specific whoopsie, like if it would affect a big donor business financially, not for women's benefit or consideration.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not diminishing anything.

Where is that coming from?

[–]nuhuhno 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not diminishing anything. Where is that coming from?

This:

Possibly it's all for show.

Hmmm. Like, as US citizens, our knowledge and life experiences as US citizens aren't real? I perceived an implication of "don't get upset"

I am not a UK citizen, yet when I read the alarm of UK women concerning GRA & EA, I believed them. I fully believed they had reason to be alarmed.

[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Jet, it seems odd to me that you are you relying on the views of a British woman on this EO as if what she says is the gospel truth and final word on the matter. Lots of American women who are knowledgable about US laws and civics specifically don't agree with Cathy Devine's take.

Sorry, intelligent and erudite as Cathy Devine might be (I dunno her, so I have no idea), I don't think that a UK Labour Party member whose expertise is in "sport and physical activity" should be regarded as the ultimate arbiter here. (Twitter profile: "Independent Researcher, Former Senior Lecturer, Sport and Physical Activity, University of Cumbria. Socialist feminist. Labour Party member.") Doesn't the UK Labour Party have enough shite of its own to sort out?

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is why I said "possibly".

Just putting the info out there.

Maybe if the Americans here could just try to aim their anger at appropriate targets they wouldn't be in this mess.

[–]wecandobetter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll try to explain it simply (I know you Brits think all us Americans are just too stupid to live, but here we go anyway) - Since the early 2000s, Congress and the Senate have been effectively dead as legislative bodies. Laws are made by EO, then the popular ones are codified and the ones too hot to handle get repealed when the government changes hands. An EO will be law for at least 4 if not 8 years. That's long enough for a new rule to shift the very structure of society. A generation can reach adulthood remembering no time when it wasn't the norm. Can it be undone? Yes. Is it stupid to act like it's a big deal? No no no no.

[–]MarkTwainiac 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe if the Americans here could just try to aim their anger at appropriate targets they wouldn't be in this mess.

What is this supposed to mean? You came onto a thread on a gender critical forum where (mostly) women were expressing their outrage over Biden's EO and suggested, hey maybe it's not all that bad coz

Possibly it's all for show.

And to back this up, you linked to a Twitter thread by Cathy Devine, a British Labour Party member with a background in "sport and physical activity," not US or international law, that actually didn't say much about the Biden EO at issue. Instead, it mainly dealt with an interpretation of the Bostock decision that preceded (by 12 days) Biden's inauguration and EO.

Now in response to posts that have asked, in essence, why are you trying to minimize this and telling posters here not to be distressed, you say

Maybe if the Americans here could just try to aim their anger at appropriate targets they wouldn't be in this mess.

What next, scolding us that "anger isn't a good look" and "be kind"? Or telling us it serves us right for being a bunch of rubes with the poor judgment to throw off British rule in the 1770s?

I'm someone who follows British politics and media very carefully, coz the UK is my fave country for a number of reasons - and prior to COVID I spent a lot of time there. But I can't imagine going on to Mumsnet or any other forum and telling British people distressed over Brexit, austerity, Dom Cummings, the Tavistock GIDS, Bojo, or NHS waiting times

Maybe if the Brits could just try to aim their anger at appropriate targets they wouldn't be in this mess.

[–]pacmanla 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope you are right.