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[–]MinisterOfTerfery 22 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 4 fun -  (23 children)

lmaoo women in the US really cheered this man getting elected

[–]mintea 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

trump isn't great but it's incredibly absurd to me that the people who hated him for sexism and racism literally cheer for biden

so many women are being completely misled

[–]our_team_is_winning 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'm disgusted how Tara Reade's assault by Biden was just ignored.

[–]Alma_Esmeraude 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not merely ignored, actively buried by the MSM and Big Tech.

[–]our_team_is_winning 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I couldn't believe a post-election poll showed something like 60% of Biden voters had never heard about Hunter's laptop. I thought that was huge worldwide news?

Selective silencing is censorship. Denying people access to information.

I wonder what % have never heard about any of the violent assaults on women by TiM?

[–]purrvana 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

And when I bring this up on ovarit I get called a Russian bot or a "conspiracy theorist". Like... what? We only believe women selectively now?

[–]our_team_is_winning 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm really glad you said that. For a while now I've felt that GC is largely "woke" -- not on the trans issue, but on every other issue. I've seen a lot of so-called feminists posting George Floyd hashtags for example, and I said he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach. And I get called racist and all the usual slurs they throw, when it has nothing to do with race here. He held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach. That doesn't mean he or anybody should die in custody, but if you're looking for someone to celebrate with three lavish celebrity-filled funerals, maybe pick someone who didn't abuse women.

The trans agenda is part of the larger "woke" agenda and I see a lot of women defending the rest of the woke agenda, really, just calling out the TRA part. There's a bigger picture here and it's frightening.

[–]censorshipment 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's been that way. These are the same women who love Bill Clinton after he (and Hillary) ruined Monica Lewinsky's career. Monica was only 22 years old... 27 years younger than Bill Clinton. Why do women love these creepy ass perverted white men so much? Straight/bisexual women need to stop loving and supporting men. Women's love for men is what keeps us under the bottom of men's shoes. Women loved the Kennedys... Ted Kennedy got away with killing a woman yet he became a beloved senator. The fuck? There should be no redemption, no second chances for men.

[–]nuhuhno 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

May they fully enjoy the dystopia they chose. }:(

[–]Madsea 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

I think it was more cheering that we are rid of Trump. I’m certainly not excited for Biden, but Trump was worse. Now we can fight this single issue without all the distractions.

[–]lefterfield 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Ehh I don't know that Trump was worse. When I see the massive government, media, and tech overreach and the way they're falling lock-step in line with the Democrats? I'd be ok with another four years of Trump.

[–]purrvana 29 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Honestly, there were several things I liked (policy-wise) about Trump... the allowance of rape shelters to be women-only (if they wanted), decriminalizing homosexuality worldwide, pro-free speech, prison reform... He's also the only president in my lifetime not to start a new war.

Sometimes I feel like I live in an upside-down world when I think about the things he did compared to how hated he is. And now the dems are being praised as "a new hope" even though Parler is gone, a bunch of people I used to follow on Twitter are gone, I had to unfollow a bunch of pages on Facebook so that I don't get witch-hunted for "wrong-think", my nieces now have to change in the pool changerooms in front of men... And people are celebrating. It's a bizarre world.

And I could never say this out loud.

[–]lefterfield 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'm right there with you. The Parler thing pissed me off and made me swear never to vote for Democrats again. And I used to work on their campaigns and attend conventions. Nor was I on Parler either - I'm just an ACTUAL liberal who values free speech and hates corporate monopolies. That more people aren't aware of just how insane that was and some that are actually defending these companies? I don't even know. I blame tech illiteracy for one. Someone tried to argue with me that "anyone could just set up their own server!" And... seriously? I know how servers and web hosting works, I study IT and they say shit like that? I just laughed at them and asked if they had a damn clue how much data a site like Parler would be processing every day. Of course they don't.

It matters because if these companies gain control over the tech access and supplies completely, it's only going to be billionaires who can even attempt what Parler did. It's pretty much at that point now. And billionaires aren't usually big on sticking their necks or money out "for free speech." People need to wake the hell up. And yeah, I have only a handful of close friends and family on Facebook, and I worry every day that one of them might turn on me.

Trump was honestly like most politicians. He did some good things, some really questionable things. His biggest flaw was antagonizing the media, and even that wasn't really his fault. I'm far more concerned with the sycophantry going on now between Biden and the media - how much shit is he going to get away with that they'll never report on? Too much is the answer.

[–]our_team_is_winning 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm just an ACTUAL liberal who values free speech and hates corporate monopolies

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I keep hearing Nancy Pelosi talk about "our democracy" -- it's pronounced "corptocracy" -- giant corporations control everything and they're in bed with the government. And if they notice you speaking up, they can not only kick you off Twitter (whatever), but shut down your Paypal, your GoFundMe, etc. and they are talking about denying people access to schools and jobs based on their views. Well, we've seen women in academia in danger for saying men aren't women.

[–]whoamiwhowhowhowho 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Parler was allegedly hosting a number of illegal threats and not moderating them well. At some point companies contributing to its existence had to think about their own reputations and legal protection. No one should be required to host illegal content.

[–]lefterfield 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Then why is Twitter repeatedly allowed to get away with illegal content? Why is Facebook? Reddit? And that thing about "not moderating them well" is a claim put out by Amazon, not an objective source. Parler had moderation, they were complying with the terms of service. What they did wrong was refuse to bow to demands to remove Trump.

What I think is more frightening than individual people making threats is corporations being able to smear them with no evidence and no criminal trial. People making threats should be reported to the authorities, and the authorities should be allowed to do their job and prosecute them. At that point - remove them. But we're already seeing Twitter being able to claim that the 100k+ accounts removed were all QAnon. This contradicts their earlier statement about why they were removing accounts, and just as a matter of logic, it sounds to me like bullshit. Extremist conspiracy theory groups do not gain 100k+ followers. But Twitter gets to smear them with no counter defense and no evidence. We're already seeing national guard members being pulled for making "objectionable tweets" - not said to be extremist, no threats, just said to be conservative.

The same will happen to other groups who go against the establishment. What's happening is that corporations are trying to convince you that private citizens are the danger that only they can protect you from. Meanwhile, these billionaires get to further consolidate and tighten the noose around everyone's neck.

[–]whoamiwhowhowhowho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Then why is Twitter repeatedly allowed to get away with illegal content? Why is Facebook? Reddit?

That isn't an argument against Parler being taken down. It's up to those sites and whoever hosts their data to deal with whatever is being posted on them. This is about Parler and whether it was hosting illegal content and/or content that broke its host's ToS. Parler is responsible for following the ToS it agreed to, and that doesn't depend on Twitter, Facebook, or Reddit adhering to any contracts they signed.

Amazon claims Parler did break their ToS, like you mentioned. From what I saw of what was being posted on Parler before it was taken down, I have a hard time waving Amazon's claim away.

What they did wrong was refuse to bow to demands to remove Trump.

That is far from the worst thing that was posted on Parler. The worse issues have been well documented.

Extremist conspiracy theory groups do not gain 100k+ followers.

How do you know one can't?

[–]lefterfield 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And I take it you have evidence that the companies I mentioned were following their TOS with Amazon, had no illegal content that would give cause for Amazon to shut down the server? Like the child porn Twitter repeatedly refused to remove? Don't sit here and defend these corrupt companies and then chuckle to me about "TOS". That is an excuse to silence inconvenient voices, and pretending otherwise is ignorant to the point of ideological blindness.

That is far from the worst thing that was posted on Parler. The worse issues have been well documented.

Worse than child porn?

How do you know one can't?

  1. Because I know of many of the accounts that were removed, and they were not Q supporters
  2. Because I can logic and make claims based on both inductive and deductive reasoning.

At this point, I have to wonder if you're lying, stupid, or being paid by Amazon.

[–]our_team_is_winning 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No new foreign wars was a big one. Peace between Israel and four Islamic countries was another. And nobody wants to mention the elephant in the room: Communist China.

I hated how the media was just 24/7 attacking Donald Trump (who had been famous for decades and viewed largely in a neutral way up to that point) and never reporting actual facts. Spare me the non-stop editorial. Just tell me what happened.

I'm old enough to remember the "Censorship is UnAmerican" campaign, which was oddly spearheaded by the Left. I think the Left literally left the building, and the Woke replaced them. Now it's not "censorship," it's "removing hate speech."

I miss the Democrats. The actual Democrats. They didn't campaign for cheap foreign labor to take away jobs and drive down wages. They didn't campaign for men's sexual fetishes to replace women's rights. They led the #FreeTibet cry. They supported free speech.

It's a lot like "feminism" I guess. We have the Third Wave with TWAW. That's not feminism. We have "liberals" with "shut down any speech I don't like" -- that's not liberalism. We have Martin Rothblatt as "the world's first female billionaire" -- that's not a female.

It's like the world is a photographic negative now, where everything is reversed.

[–]WildApples 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. The fascism that progressives feared Trump would usher in is now being actively striven for by Democrats. Progressives are far more dangerous because they are fostering a culture in which anyone who disagrees with them must be censored, and with the tech and media companies on board they have the means to successfully stifle opposition. It feels more Orwellian by the day.

I voted Democrat my entire life until this last election (I abstained). I certainly will not be voting Democrat again anytime in the near future.

[–]Madsea 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I’m extremely bothered by big tech happenings as well. FWIW though I saw a few antifa groups got booted from Twitter too, so at least they’re starting to spread their bs out a bit.

[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, seemed like that was after they trashed the DNC headquarters? Not sure if any were removed before that.

[–]jet199 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not seeing that.

What I'm seeing is a lot of

"I'm really happy Biden is president but hate this executive order."

This from rad fems not just general gc or detrans anons.

Trump not mentioned at all.

Biden has multiple accusations of sexual assault against him.

Imagine you were one of those women seeing this guy celebrated by the one group left who are supposed to have your back.

[–]Madsea 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No worries, I know the modern left are no friends to women. I’m just focusing on what I can change now and that means fighting back.