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[–]VioletRemi 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

but they love to use DSD as gotcha, neverthless.

And this make no sense as well.

Let's say person with DSD is 3rd sex (which is not true). So what?

You was born with XY male, lived 40 years as XY male, all your body is completely male. How existing of XY female who was born like that proves that you can become female too after 40 years? XY female not changed her sex, she was born this way, and never was XY male. So what this argument have to do with you or with possibility of sex change? Even if there will be 100 different sexes, how that makes anyone able to change sex, if all cases are inmutable during life?

Anyway, trans identified people with a DSD are very rare.

By reports there 0.6% of population are trans. While only 0.2% of population are people with DSD, and only 0.05% of them have ambigious genitals, and only 0.02% have ambigious chromosomes. This means that there are 30 times more trans people than people with DSD.

Transes rhetorics about "sex is a spectrum" is VERY harmful to intersex youth. And it may push them to transition or surgeries. They are called "less females" or "less males" on a scale - and it creates a lot of stress on parents, kids themselves and their attending doctors. Being perceived by others and especially by themselves as incomplete or "lesser" will lead kid to think that they are abnormal, and majority of people are aiming to be normal, so that can lead to IGM, parents being nervous and kids wanting to "I will better be transman and real man by this ideology than incomplete lesser woman". This argument is supported by recent statistics of WPATH (they are liers, thought, and hate intersex people really much, so take this data with grain of salt) and few other trans organisations - there is increased number of trans or non-binary among people with DSD, while older than 25 people with DSD almost never trans, and if they are trans - it was in almost every single case mistreatment by doctors in 70s-80s and forced IGM with transition, when this phenomena was not studied as well as it is now.

[–]BiologyIsReal 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

When do they ever make sense?

There is a very significant contrast between contrast between the intersex advocates who want to prevent unnecessary surgeries and that kids have access to accurate information about their conditions and the transactivists who are pushing kids towards "medical transition" and gaslight them when talking about biology. Transactivism certainly isn't helpful to intersex youth, quite the contrary. And it doesn't help that intersex are often lumped within the LGBTQ+.

and only 0.02% have ambigious chromosomes.

I'm not sure what you're talking about here. Do you mean mutations like for example a X chromosome with an insertion of the SRY gen or a Y chromosome with the SRY gen deleted/mutated?

[–]VioletRemi 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, like XX with Sry or XY without, or CAIS cases.

And it doesn't help that intersex are often lumped within the LGBTQ+.

There was organisation for TQI+ specifically, and they recently had their big conferense, and they not mentioned "I" part even a single time. They gathered money as well, and spended those to fund stuff to TQ, nothing was spend on "I". They just lumping them together with themselves as useful tool. Same as when speaking "Anti-LGBT" and then only speaking about "T" part, the LGB there only lumped to look more solid and like it has something to do with everyone of us. Like you know, that "hard to get estrogen and face surgery for transitioning of transwomen, and we need taxpayer money to fund it" has anything to do with lesbian women like myself or gay men.

[–]MarkTwainiac 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I also don't understand what is meant by the term

ambigious chromosomes