"Trans men" and "trans women" are bashing the uk court's decision to ban puberty blockers, saying that puberty blockers have no adverse effects, and that it's fine to "let a kid hit pause on their body for a couple years"

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[–]refusetolie 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The process of puberty is essential to the maturation of the brain. The rationale for stopping puberty is to postpone the decision to make permanent changes until the child is older without developing secondary sex characteristics. The implicit fact here is that older children, teenagers are better equipped to assess risks than are young children. The reason for this is due to brain development and additional years of experience.

While I do not agree that a normal 16-year-old is equipped to make major permanent decisions affecting health and fertility, even if that were the case, a 16-year-old who has had their puberty halted is in no way equivalent to a 16-year-old who is undergoing normal development. The delayed child is psychologically more like a prepubescent child, as the treatment introduces a developmental asynchrony. Thus it is not rational to presume that their increased age confers the expected expansion in the ability to realistically judge risks and make permanent decisions.

Similarly, it is common for autistic children to be delayed in social development and emotional maturity even if they are cognitively normal or even far superior to the norm. Given the degree of overlap between autistic minors and cross-gender identification, the effect of delaying the brain maturation of a child who is already delayed in these respects likely compounds the socially damaging effects of developmental asynchrony.

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The process of puberty is essential to the maturation of the brain.

Yes, and - more to the point - the maturation of the brain that begins in puberty & ends circa age 25 is precisely what enables the vast majority of people to grow out of "gender dysphoria" and so many of the underlying issues that "gender dysphoria" is based on - such as an an embrace of & fixation with of rigid sex stereotypes; an obsession with their physical appearance; the belief that everyone is always looking at them & negatively judging them; as well as magical thinking, childlike fantasies, simplistic world views and the utterly wrongheaded conviction that the way for a person to resolve emotional and mental distress is to change how they look, how they "identify" & what labels/pronouns they apply to themselves and publicly announce with the daft idea that the whole world must play along. As the brain matures, most people also figure out that a core tenet of trans ideology - trying to control how everyone else in the world perceives you and what words they use when they speak of you - is pointless and tyrannical too.

Of course, brain maturation does not automatically resolve underlying issues like anxiety, depression, autism, body image issues, EDs, and so on. In fact, there are some mental illnesses - such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder - that tend to emerge/become evident only as the brain becomes more mature. But in general, brain maturation does give people the capacity to begin to see that there are other, better ways of dealing with their mental health and social adjustment issues than going "trans."

Moreover, as you point out, whether kids are autistic or "cognitively normal or even far superior to the norm," delaying puberty will put them behind their peers - both psychologically and socially. As they watch their peers move on in life and develop and grow, their sense of not fitting in and being out of the loop will only increase. As will their profound sense of loneliness and their inner conviction that "there's something really wrong with me."

PBs essentially lock kids into their "gender dysphoria" and other mental health problems and prevent them from finding a way out. Jazz Jennings, who started blockers at age 10-11 and estrogen at 12, tragically illustrates this all too well.

[–]Bootsinmyshoes30[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Very well written as always <3

By the way I wasn't around on the 1st of January to tell you this so I wanted to say now happy new year. And thank you for doing all you can to educate the "trans" and tras every step of the way in 2020, both on the reddit gc sub that got banned and here. You inspired me to be more active as well, couldn't do it without you 🥺

[–]MarkTwainiac 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for your kind words. You cheered me up on a day when I really needed it. So glad you are here! We're all doing what we can.

Best wishes to you, and happy new year. Let's hope it's better than the last one. Again, thanks for the kind words. Keep up the good work.

[–]hfxB0oyA 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good. This will force these assholes to argue more and more publicly in favour of harming children. Best of luck, fuckers.

[–]Shesstealthy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's not the problem. The problem is the very bad side effects of the drugs in question and the questionably of whether taking them will actually help a trans teen pass or have an easy medical transition if that is what their goal is.

[–]MarkTwainiac 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One of the reasons the idea that PBs will help a trans teen pass better and have an "easy medical transition" is questionable is coz it's based entirely on suppositions regarding the male population of trans youth - suppositions that were invented and pushed by grown adult TIMs to conform with their pie-in-the-sky and wholly self-centered fantasies about what they think they would've preferred to have happened to themselves when they were kids.

But the suppositions of these grown men have been pretty thoroughly debunked by what happened to Jazz Jennings, who underwent numerous experimental genital surgeries, including one that spectacularly failed, because PBs leave boys with such small penises and scrotums that there's not enough genital tissue for surgeons to do conventional fauxgina and fauxlva surgeries, so skin grafts from other parts of the body must be used. Moreover, boys who take PBs early in puberty as Jazz did end up with no libido, no sexual function, no capacity to experience sexual pleasure or orgasm. Since most TIMs who went through natural puberty are entirely driven by their male libidos and their quest to experience their own male sexual pleasure, I highly doubt any of them would be happy to end up like Jazz.

As far as female youth go, the information published so far is that girls who take PBs for "gender dysphoria" also end up sexually dysfunctional and most likely sterile - plus, they end up shorter as adults than they otherwise would have been. Stunting the height of these girls will definitely make it far less likely that they'll "pass" as males in adulthood. In still photographs or videos when they are not seen next to males, many "transmen" seem to pass at first glance coz of the beards and receding hairlines. But when seen in IRL, or in media where they're shown alongside males (including TIMs), the small stature of most TIFs even if they never took PBs almost always gives them away. As do their often tiny hands, which they can't always keep in their pockets so they remain hidden from view.

Case in point is TIF Chase Strangio with TIM Laverne Cox: https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/laverne-cox-and-chase-strangio-attend-the-71st-emmy-awards-news-photo/1176562309

Chase Strangio with other people: https://www.gettyimages.in/detail/news-photo/lee-gelernt-josh-kriegman-brigitte-amiri-chase-strangio-and-news-photo/1202126760

TIF Mack Beggs in red shirt with TIM Terry Miller to Beggs' right, and TIM Andraya Yearwood in long dress: https://www.zimbio.com/photos/Terry+Miller/Andraya+Yearwood/Changing+Game+2019+Tribeca+Film+Festival/5QE9BpFi7AN

Can you imagine of either Strangio or Beggs had taken PBs how much smaller they'd be?