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[–]artetolife 46 insightful - 2 fun46 insightful - 1 fun47 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

afaik she hasn't even claimed to be a man, she is now "he/they" which I translate as "not woman".

[–]MezozoicGay[S] 32 insightful - 4 fun32 insightful - 3 fun33 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, as someone noted "I am tired of all this sexism, I want to be anything, but woman".

You can change Ellen Page to any other transman, nothing will really change in equasion in the post.

[–]Baileyscheesecakes 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I don't get how someone can be both "he" and "they." But then, that's looking for logic where there may not be any.

[–]Shesstealthy 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I believe the old term for it was kinda butch lesbian.

[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I mean we still exist and the whole point to me about being butch is that I am a woman, just an unfeminine one in some ways and honestly some people might confuse me for a man at a distance and leave my partner and I alone.

I just think in the case of these gender PR lost ones- it’s insecurity from both not wanting to be perceived as female, but also wanting to be acknowledged as female when its beneficial to them/knowing the truth but not wanting to admit it. I see it on twitter profiles a lot, “wah I’m a nonbinary artist can I be featured in women artist wednesday features I’m a nonbinary woman! She/they/he/zem/zir/courgette” So - ok you’re not a woman but you are a woman? Just for the feature? Hmm

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Those pronouns irritate me for purely linguistic reasons. They are both subject pronouns. When do I use 'he' and when do I use 'they'?

Can my pronouns be he / she?

[–]artetolife 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Plenty of "genderfluid" people claim he/she or he/she/they. No idea how you're meant to keep up with which one they feel like that day.