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[–]Portrynial 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I do understand about Grindr as a gay men's app. That's why I said before, you can disagree with a trans person being on there. I just don't think it makes sense to get hostile just because you disagree with someone. There are better ways to communicate, if it's not a situation where you need to defend yourself.

I'm not trying to side with trans vs gendercritical. But technically, Grindr says it's "for gay, bi, trans, and queer people" their words. That doesn't mean that gay men have to date tifs. I can understand if one would prefer the site to be a gay only, even if it technically isn't. But like I said, the hostility does not make sense. Just un-match.

The way I understand it, the problem with the modern trans cult is their promoting violence against women, taking over women's sports, shutting down women's spaces, blackmailing lesbians to sleep with them, threatening people for using the wrong pronouns, trying to shut anyone down who even talks about female anatomy or the experience of being a woman, forcing everyone to agree with them.

Your lesbian bar example represents a desire to protest that violence. Though if a man simply shows up peacefully at a lesbian bar, it's more realistic that he'll just be told that he has to leave. I don't think there would be a problem with the trans movement, if all they did was show up peacefully to spaces where not everyone agrees they belong (but if it's not against the rules.) If they weren't collectively trying to harm women. Not everyone agrees on everything.

Now look at the example of the tif on Grindr you were talking about. Fair enough you feel she does not belong there. She still wasn't threatening to shut down men's or women's spaces, nor threatening anyone to not reference male (or female) anatomy, nor erasing male athletes in sports, and probably was not pressuring/blackmailing gay guys to sleep with her (unless there's more to it I don't know about.) Guys can easily click "un-match." Guys were not being threatened by her.

She COULD be doing those things, we just don't know about it. So I don't think your Grindr story about her represents the real problem. It's not whining that "No one should be mean to anyone." It's just, be a little more reasonable.

Saying she should expect hostility from gay men, is the same attitude the lgbtq cult has about wanting to shut down anyone who doesn't agree with them. Trying to shut people down JUST BECAUSE is not healthy, for any reason.