straight girl tifs with gay male fetishes are straight up admitting to it now,,, @ gay men i am so sorry

submitted by gencritcurious from i.imgur.com

sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]divingrightintowork 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Ugh in a gender discourse group on Facebook I'm in some TiF was talking about how like men on grindr will be like "Oh ugh fuck off ya g*sh," when they find out they're talking to a woman - and she's like "You don't have to be mean about it!"

And it's like are you fucking kidding me? You're a woman in a gay man's space, you shouldn't even be here and you should sure as fuck expect hostility.

[–]Portrynial 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Should NOT expect hostility. I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you there. Shouldn't the idea be that people can disagree with each other, without getting hostile about it? So those gay guys, or you, can disagree with a tif being on Grindr. But still be civil about it. Unmatch, use the block button, etc.

From what you wrote, I didn't read any hint that the tif you were talking about was trying to guilt trip the gay guys or coerce them. Unless there's more about it you didn't say. A dating app match is only the first point of communication.

You can say no without getting aggressive (if it's not needed.) You don't hear about women screaming at men or "transbians" just because they matched on Tinder. Aside from most probably find it scary to do so even if a guy gets pushy.

What I see here, is an outlook of males looking for an excuse to abuse a woman, verbally, or however he can get away with it. Because if it seems like she deserved it, then he appears to have a pass to do anything he wants -to push things further than needed.

That particular situation doesn't sound like it's so much to do with trans identity/gendercritical issues. It's to do with verbal abuse of women. Those gay guys sounds like possible psychopaths.

[–]divingrightintowork 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If you went to a support group for people who lost family in 9/11 and you lost no one in 9/11 and you kept talking about how your family's funeral was so hard, or what not, it was even worse than loosing someone in 9/11, you don't think it's unreasonable that some people may start to get upset with you?

[–]Portrynial 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah that's reasonable. You didn't mention whether that tif person was saying something similar to that, in their conversations with gay guys. I don't know what they talked about in your grindr example. I just know that there are guys who have a tendency to jump at the chance to intimidate a woman, when they don't need to.

In your example of the support group, it would be fair for them to disagree with the person, and to ask the person to leave. It would not be fair though, for the support group to get hostile about it, to suddenly speak in a threatening tone to the person, just because they can. Not unless the individual themself was trying to bully someone in the group, or refusing to leave.

Think about it: That intimidation type of behavior is something men tend to do to women, whether they make it seem like a woman deserved it or not. It's not something women do to men, even when men are bothering them. Then the attitude is "She was asking for it." And isn't that strange how nobody keeps males in check even close to that level for women? Somehow it's always made to seem like it's women who deserve men's aggression.

[–]divingrightintowork 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You do understand Grindr is a gay men's (re: homosexual) dating / hook up app - there is no reason a female should be on it. At all. Sure "no one should ever be mean to anyone,' but similarly it's on me if I invade a space that isn't for me and I shouldn't yell about how mean people in that space are because they complain about me being there. Similarly I think it would be reasonable for women to tell men to fuck off if goes into a lesbian bar / is on a female exclusive dating app. Whether or not she will is a different question but if a guy complained to me about how mean women at the lesbian bar were to him I'd indeed say "What the fuck were you doing in a lesbian bar?" Not "oooh noo no one should be mean to anyone."

[–]Portrynial 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I do understand about Grindr as a gay men's app. That's why I said before, you can disagree with a trans person being on there. I just don't think it makes sense to get hostile just because you disagree with someone. There are better ways to communicate, if it's not a situation where you need to defend yourself.

I'm not trying to side with trans vs gendercritical. But technically, Grindr says it's "for gay, bi, trans, and queer people" their words. That doesn't mean that gay men have to date tifs. I can understand if one would prefer the site to be a gay only, even if it technically isn't. But like I said, the hostility does not make sense. Just un-match.

The way I understand it, the problem with the modern trans cult is their promoting violence against women, taking over women's sports, shutting down women's spaces, blackmailing lesbians to sleep with them, threatening people for using the wrong pronouns, trying to shut anyone down who even talks about female anatomy or the experience of being a woman, forcing everyone to agree with them.

Your lesbian bar example represents a desire to protest that violence. Though if a man simply shows up peacefully at a lesbian bar, it's more realistic that he'll just be told that he has to leave. I don't think there would be a problem with the trans movement, if all they did was show up peacefully to spaces where not everyone agrees they belong (but if it's not against the rules.) If they weren't collectively trying to harm women. Not everyone agrees on everything.

Now look at the example of the tif on Grindr you were talking about. Fair enough you feel she does not belong there. She still wasn't threatening to shut down men's or women's spaces, nor threatening anyone to not reference male (or female) anatomy, nor erasing male athletes in sports, and probably was not pressuring/blackmailing gay guys to sleep with her (unless there's more to it I don't know about.) Guys can easily click "un-match." Guys were not being threatened by her.

She COULD be doing those things, we just don't know about it. So I don't think your Grindr story about her represents the real problem. It's not whining that "No one should be mean to anyone." It's just, be a little more reasonable.

Saying she should expect hostility from gay men, is the same attitude the lgbtq cult has about wanting to shut down anyone who doesn't agree with them. Trying to shut people down JUST BECAUSE is not healthy, for any reason.