About the idea that playing along with trans fantasies is the polite thing to do

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[–]EveSerpent 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They already know they’re wrong about themselves. That’s why they’re so very desperate to have everyone else in the world validate their delusions by pretending along with them. They can’t even convince themselves.

[–]HarlanRogers 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think they, or at least some portion of the population, do sincerely believe these things though. That's one of the reasons they're so militant about it, they're convinced they're right.

[–]EveSerpent 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I have to disagree. If anyone truly believed a TIM was a woman, then his concerns and interests would be treated as actual women’s are: ignored, dismissed, mocked. Not treated as though they are the words of a god that must be obeyed, like they are now.

What if women had actually wanted integrated public bathrooms for some crazy reason? Wouldn’t happen. Instead we are trying to fight against this, and we—the absolute majority over TIMs, with real safety concerns—are shot down.

No woman is making an effort to have grown men share changing rooms with their 10 year old daughters. TIMs are the ones championing this and winning.

ETC. ETC. ETC. Because everyone knows they’re men and so they are pandered to. TIFs are largely ignored by everyone because who cares, they’re women.

I believe they’re all only militant about it due to their narcissism and misogyny. Nothing more.

[–]MezozoicGay 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If anyone truly believed a TIM was a woman, then his concerns and interests would be treated as actual women’s are: ignored, dismissed, mocked. Not treated as though they are the words of a god that must be obeyed, like they are now.

Just like in majority of discussions, issues and laws - transmen are ignored, and instead narrative is shifted to transwomen, even if it started about transmen. And are mentioned only when they can be used as "gotcha!".

[–]emptiedriver 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's probably a flexibility around do they/don't they believe, similar to whether people really believe in god - it's not as simple as whether they believe in the coffee table, but some people have a level of commitment to their way of seeing the world that makes their understanding of their sex deeply important and seemingly true. It's not a rational belief, they think they are "women" but also trans women when that is more important, but it's still something deeply held and central to their lives...