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[–]Rationalmind 36 insightful - 3 fun36 insightful - 2 fun37 insightful - 3 fun -  (19 children)

Wait, remind me again about how the left is the party of science. The left is maddeningly blind to its own issues.

[–]materialrealityplz 36 insightful - 3 fun36 insightful - 2 fun37 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

No kidding. They make fun of the right for not believing in climate change or wearing masks. Climate change is real, and wearing masks definitely helps contain the spread of the virus. But, those things aren't obvious. Climate change is too big and not obvious even when weather is extreme, about what is the cause and the virus is so small you can't see it.

But. Biological sex is so freaking obvious and real. We are humans, with sexed bodies. And the left is pretending it's all about gender identity and feelings.

They make fun of the right for not believing in things that are quite hard to see, but then won't even acknowledge their very own bodies over some mystical 'gender identity' bullsh*t.

[–]zephyranthes 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

As Rationalmind pointed above, climate change is a cult now. Sinners must buy indulgencies from authorized sellers, while the environmental impact of the virtuous has been pronounced ok ex cathedra. Meanwhile, many true believers are uninterested in reducing their own observable environmental harm, leaving it to cult authorities to pray it away.

The masks, likewise: The virus is clearly spiritual because only demonic mass assemblies (such as church services) spread it, lootings and riots and spiritually clean businesses don't. Sinners are punished with shutdowns, the virtuous get to stay open, get covid relief, and are released with no bail.

[–]Finnegan7921 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Every word of that was so true, yet any of the lefty intelligentsia would cancel you for it while they drive their Tesla(not environmentally friendly) to Starbucks(b/c that shit is totally essential),play around on their iphone(made in China under dubious labor conditions), then return home(which ahs a massive carbon footprint).

[–]Rationalmind 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, while I agree climate change is an issue, we have moved toward this discussion ala a religious dogma.

[–]divingrightintowork 9 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Remember so long as you are fighting for social justice, Gxd will protect you from the Coronas.

[–]DifferentAirGC 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Yep. Even cavemen knew about biological sex, while climate science is something that started around the 19th century.

[–]endless_assfluff 13 insightful - 11 fun13 insightful - 10 fun14 insightful - 11 fun -  (0 children)

Cavemen knew about biological sex? Did they? I thought biological sex was a conspiracy invented by white colonialists to antagonize indigenous communities who lived in a magical gender utopia, and who apparently shrugged their shoulders and drooled on the floor every time someone asked where babies came from.

[–]MarkTwainiac 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Even cavemen knew about biological sex

Cavemen? OMG, LOL. I thought that sort of male-centrist terminology went out in the 1970s when it was replaced by such terms as cave people, prehistoric people and hunter-gatherers.

It seems we are going backwards at warp speed.

[–]Rationalmind 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Don’t forget “people of caves.”

[–]whateverneverpine 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Cavemxn?

[–]Finnegan7921 23 insightful - 6 fun23 insightful - 5 fun24 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Only when the science suits their agenda. If it conflicts, it doesn't count. "DNA, chromosomes, nah, that';s bullshit. Feelz ? Totally scientific."

[–]Rationalmind 12 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Did you know human biology is a sOcIaL cOnStRuCt?

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I've talked with fundamentalist Christians that don't believe in evolution, mostly out of curiosity to see the justifications. It's not well reasoned and relies on using anecdotal cases to make sweeping claims that carbon dating and such accurate, and there's some conspiratorial stuff too like scientists are hiding away specimens that will prove creationism is true.

Is that really so different than how extreme leftists generate their worldview? Things like "gender is assigned at birth by the doctor" (as opposed to observed) or that intersex conditions make sex a spectrum or social construct... When I think about which belief is more detrimental to people's wellbeing, meh, I think I'd side with the fundies on this one.

[–]denverkris 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

intersex conditions make sex a spectrum or social construct

For this one I always just ask them if humans are NOT bipeds since some people are born with only one leg? Using a rare birth defect to try to prove that sex is complicated is about as stupid as it gets. Every human alive today came from the union of one male and one female.

[–]MezozoicGay 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Using a rare birth defect

With which people are still male or female too.

[–]denverkris 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes I know, I'm not the one who seems to have difficulty with male or female, lmao.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Absolutely. Not only that, but phrases such as "you don't have a leg to stand on" or "arms wide open" aren't something we as a society need to eradicate from our language so people who are missing limbs aren't marginalized. They're figures of speech that apply to the vast majority of the population.

[–]devushka 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

At least evolution happens over a long period of time, so I can understand a person not seeing it. Plus it's not like evolution is something that really affects everyone's day to day life for the most part.

Whereas the differences between the sexes are so blatant, so obvious, and so instinctual, I'm like how are you not seeing this.

[–]lefterfield 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So much this. If I have to choose between the two, I could care less what some individual non-scientist thinks about evolution. It doesn't affect my life or the general science behind it in any way. But not believing women exist? I am a woman, damn it. Every day I wake up a woman.

[–]Carthimundia 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A common trans activist trope is to say that gender critical feminists “reduce” women to their body parts. How can they square that with literally calling women “menstruators” or “pregnant people”? They label women by their reproductive bodily functions and yet we are the reductive ones?

[–]Rationalmind 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The left permits hypocrisy and employs cognitive dissonance.

[–]SharpTomorrow 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"baby producers", "milk factories", "vagina havers" I mean how much more dehumanizing can one be? just because these people cant say the word "female" anymore, it's not "inclusive".

[–]hfxB0oyA 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I love the responses. Now it's PoC rights vs TiM rights. Now that Trump won't be there to focus on, watch the various branches of the wokeratti turn on each other with knives out...

[–]purrvana 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's going to be like a snake eating its own tail.

[–]wecandobetter 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

They're getting dragged to shit though.

[–]MarkTwainiac 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Monday November 9 in the early afternoon, they made a second tweet saying this:

The webinar panelists used the term "birthing person" to include those who identify as non-binary or transgender because not all who give birth identify as "women" or "girls." We understand the reactions to this terminology and in no way meant for it to erase or dehumanize women.

The new tweet is getting ratioed too.

[–]MezozoicGay 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

How exclusion of 99% is inclusive?

[–]denverkris 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Hopefully they're being told to eat shit.

[–]oyasuminasai50 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Please tell me how many people out there giving birth identify as trans or non-binary. Please. I guarantee it's around 0.01% of all bIrThInG pEoPLe.

[–]teacherterf 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's time to put these people on the defensive. We use a definition of woman that includes ALL "birthing people", regardless of identity. Genderists (and apparently Harvard Med) favor a narrower definition that excludes some people with uteruses. And we all know there's nothing worse than excluding people. We don't have to explain why we don't require female people to have specific feelings in order to count as women. It's on genderists to justify why their exclusionary definition of "woman" is better than our inclusive one.

[–]MezozoicGay 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Some companies are going even further: https://twitter.com/npwf/status/1308889564681887744

National Partnership called pregnant women of color as "black birthing bodies".

[–]Femaleisnthateful 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jesus, that was gross. The comments are rewarding though. I feel like female erasure, like the sports issue, will be one that peaks a lot of people.

[–]lefterfield 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I love this tweet:

"You mean black mothers. Only the worth of an inanimate object lies in its function, the worth of a living thing lies simply in its existence; this is why a plastic spoon is still a spoon but a plastic flower is not a flower. We are women, not objects with a function."

[–]Femaleisnthateful 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder if any trans 'folx' actually feel 'validated' by being referred to as 'bodies' and 'something-havers'? I feel like trans people would prefer to be acknowledged as such rather than reduced to body parts and functions. The only people this language appeals to are those who seek to erase women and detach the word 'woman' from biological reality.

[–]GaiusHelenMohiam 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Also, what are “globally, ethnic minority” people? I doubt French Canadians do worse than Bulgarian-Bulgarians. They probably really mean poor people. Not gonna watch to find out.

[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, what are “globally, ethnic minority” people?

Good point. Persons who write such stuff seem to assume that the world is predominantly white. When, in fact, Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners and people of various non-European indigenous ethnicities constitute the vast majority of the earth's human inhabitants. White people of European heritage are "globally" the ethnic minority people.

[–]whateverneverpine 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Did they mean, perhaps, a whole new species...birthlings, like earthlings?