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[–]WrongToy[S] 22 insightful - 5 fun22 insightful - 4 fun23 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

i don't either. but i also don't want trump.

jfc what a world in which we're looking to freaking Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh to actually put a stop to this...for the same reasons they want to stop abortion.

[–]redditbegay 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

jfc what a world in which we're looking to freaking Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh to actually put a stop to this...for the same reasons they want to stop abortion.

It kinda seems like Joe is going to staunchly support Abortion, but considering how most of his views are republican opinions, and in his career he was one of the only democrats to try to make Roe get effectively overturned, I don't think the PR matches his opinions on women's health.

And no matter what he says to us in PR spots, joe has a SOLID record of being in office- where he will consistently say whatever his donors want him to tell us.

The last Hope and Change campaign he was in, resulted in mostly neoliberal grifts of republican policies, growing economic inequalities, huge crackdowns on whistleblowers, THE MOST DEPORATIONS OF ANY PRESIDENT, INCLUDING THE ONE WHO HATES IMMIGRANTS that peak you're seeing - take a close look at what year it took place in, the right edge is actually ~20%+ lower than those previous numbers, Obama care, while it helped people somewhat, ended up mainly being a handout to the insurance industry, which hasnt been changed from its initial form in 2011, resulting in rising costs of care that many more people can't afford, and that was BEFORE people lost their jobs to this pandemic.

On the issue of healthcare, Joe has literally said he wont allow it to be replaced by giving everyone medicare. IF he goes into office, we will see 8 to 12 years of the staunchest defender AGAINST progressive progress that the country has ever seen- in the 80's he also ran for office, (this will be his third presidental campaign), and he was kicked out of the race for lying about his education. Joe claims he has 3 degrees, was the top of his class, got a scholarship- and it's really funny how that works out if you want to see some of his true character in this 2 minute vid.

Over his career, joe has been caught repeatedly stealing other politicians speeches, claiming he met nelson mandela, claming he marched for civil rights and after being caught for some of these things, he still kept repeating them.

Joe has a quote from when he got into office, how he asked the donors what he had to do to get more money, 'hed do anything'.

He supported the iraq war before bush was even running for office - many years before 9 11.

And lastly the democrats added banning fracking to their political platform after Sanders dropped out.... but they quickly removed even that- the lobbyists dont want to do get rid of it.

They had a platform committee with some Dem Progressives, but it adopted NONE of the things they were asking for.

So- I feel three things about this election.

Trump is bad.

The democrats cheated senator sanders.

And now the Dems have been working around the clock to get third parties kicked off the ballots- i dont consider that to be a move that deserves any respect in a democracy- but they are owned by their lobbyists so democracy is not a fond ideal of theirs anymore.

The choices in this election come down to Democrat; republican, Third Party, or other (As a write in or protest vote).

IF Joe wins - look at his health and its likely that he will step down in 1st or 2nd term- that leaves us with president kamala who is in many ways worse than joe, just look at her record and the policies SHE HERSELF CHAMPIONED to prosecute poor mothers who couldnt get their kids to school. She gets a pass from lowinfo liberals because she is part of a minority (Jamaican and Eurasia-Indian), while they ignore how her policies affected mainly the poor and her ignoring court orders to reduce her prison populations, almost causing a constitutional crisis herself- and that says NOTHING about the ways she got into office, which is a horrible example for any of our children.

So the choice becomes what they're telling us, of "you have to vote for the 'lesser' evil", take the "Harm reduction", YOU HAVE TO VOTE WHO WE SAY OR YOURE NOT PATRIOTIC/UNRACIST/[INSERT TERM HERE] ENOUGH!!!!

It's up to EVERY voter to decide what is the biggest 'harm reduction' of evil to choose for, this year. There is a lot of evidence pointing to the idea that the democrats cheated senator sanders this time around; they are kicking the green party off the ballots; they ALSO engage in Gerrimandering, but it doesnt get covered when they do, they spent all of 2018 telling us how bad kavanaugh is and trumpeting Christine's story, and then ALL at ONCE becoming silent once Tara claimed she was raped too. 2

Both parties will claim to pander for things, but only the Democrats VERBATIM said they BELIEVE ALL WOMEN. *In 2018 and through Kavanaughs hearing and then NEVER AGAIN AFTER THAT WAS DONE WITH!!!!

This is the official dem politician stance on assault in 2020-
7:35 'im satisfied with joe bidens response' (+ more word salad - hes the pErSoNiFiCaTiOn oF hOpE!!!!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGhfygpnV5I

2: The lawyers behind the official MeToo group even REFUSED to represent Tara because it might hurt Joe's campaigning.

So, apologies for hte long post, ladies, but I'm becoming very tired of the dems double speak, only being a party that gloms on to social issues when its politically relevant, then dropping them not a second later, I'm Tired of Pres. Obama being behind the one person who would improve our healthcare system and whos always fought for women dropping out, and seeing nearly the entire media covering up to ignore Tara's story has been completely fucking enraging to see the whole democrat establishment not giving one single solitary fuck about her and the other stories of people close to biden (with tons of pictures) of him harassing total strangers, ALL THE TIME.

The choices are between one party that gets rid of others on the ballot, one that is normally reprehensible, and is currently led by someone THE DEMOCRATS promoted in a cynical ploy because they thought they would win even easier against him, and the third partys which would do well to diversity our political thought if they could only reach as little as 5% of the vote - or up to 15% where they would be automatically added to every debate going forward.

I think that if the dems win, it is likely that Joe would step down for Kamala in either the first or second terms, meanwhile, the same administration that barely moved on minimum wage or the environment, and which deported more people than even trump, will continue to enact republican policies, legislate from the right, and staunch ANY true liberal progress within the party or the country.

That would lead to easily 8-12 years of this same neoliberal administration as the last 8 (08-16) which itself led us to having a president trump.

If we get ANOTHER neolib, the next candidate will be a LITERAL fucking hitler candidate, and I dont want that. But there are no good answers, and the one politician who has actually fought for these things his entire career was undermined by every political elite in the party.

And when they'll cover up Tara's allegations, just wonder what else they would cover up for them all.

There's NO good vote in this election, decidedly chosen by the dem elites, and the lesser evil is still evil.

Between 4 more years of the trumps, or 8-12 of the obama/kamala administration, its the most impossible puzzle for us to decide which one is better, but ultimately, we must.

Thank goodness that all the bush idiots are coming out of the woodwork to tell us what we should think.

This is a little longer than amy and barrett, but when youre on a roll and theres 3 days left to potentially armagheddon 2.0- sometimes we just gotta type some things, you know?

[–]Shesstealthy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So... four more years of Trump?

[–]SharpTomorrow 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

i don't either. but i also don't want trump.

sure, and there are other candidates or parties to vote for. Biden and Trump are the status quo, or worse.

[–]Shesstealthy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What chances do those candidates have of winning?

[–]whateverneverpine 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Zero, of course.