Comments from "Gender-Experts" and transwomen on a post about a teenage girl who found her little brother wearing her underwears and wanking on her panties defending the brother's creepy actions as "experimenting with his gender fluidity and sexuality"

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[–]GConly 43 insightful - 3 fun43 insightful - 2 fun44 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Omg, that twit basically just admitted that it's normal for transwomen to masturbate in stolen underwear.

I keep seeing 'autogynephillia was debunked'. They are pretty desperate to make people think it isn't real.

Here's the proof it's real..

[–]BEB 40 insightful - 1 fun40 insightful - 0 fun41 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

One of the big signposts on my path to Terfdom was when Woman of the Year Bruce Jenner admitted something similar about his daughter's underwear.

I looked around and thought, "Wait - is anyone thinking the same thing I'm thinking? This dude stole his teen daughter's underwear got off on it and now is WOMAN of the Year?!?!?"

And then I soon realized that the whole world had gone crazy or maybe I had, because the media and society didn't seem to think it was any big deal.

And then I found r/gendercritical and realized that I wasn't totally alone...

[–]MarkTwainiac 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

And it wasn't just that Jenner "admitted" sneaking into his daughters' room and trying on/stealing their undergarments - he bragged about doing so publicly in a speech he gave when being honored once again for being a stunning and brave trailblazer for the "LGTBQ-WTF."

[–]BEB 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was just crazy - that's when I started to think that this wasn't just some harmless "I JUST WANNA PEE" movement and something really sinister was up.

[–]FineIWillDoItMyself[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not sure why is he seen as LGBTQ icon when he clearly doesn't support gay marriage.

Guess the T was happy with him and this is enough for them.

[–]Cicerosolo 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What the fuck? Can you link to something please?

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/caitlyn-jenner-at-chicago-house-event/62376/

[–]Cicerosolo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thank you. Gross. However, in the article there is just mention of clothing, not undergarments. Not that I'd doubt that happened, but I doubt anyone would admit to that

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah true. I still think it's creepy taking your 10 year old daughter's clothes... especially when you can buy women's clothing online, or use your wife's, or saying you're buying the clothes for your wife.

[–]hmimperialtortie 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I presume I wasn’t the only one who saw giant red paedophilia flags waving when he bragged about that. Are any AGPs not paedophiles?

[–]peaked2020 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

We should ask these people is why they wouldn’t just buy it. If they felt some compulsion for the opposite sex underwear, especially as an adult, they can find them for the price of a soft drink. They make the choice to wear the ones that belong to other women instead, stealing them, sometimes masturbating into the panties. Not even normal clothing but underwear. It has to be a fetish. You don’t see FTM behaving in such a disgusting way most of the time.

[–]MarkTwainiac 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, it's autogynephilia - and violating the boundaries of female people is an essential part of AGP. Boys and men with AGP are particularly keen on violating the boundaries of female people the guys know well or just by sight and are sexually aroused by and envious of - such as their daughters, sisters, wives, mothers, grans, girlfriends, neighbors, colleagues, acquaintances.

A key component of AGP is that boys and men with this fetish are covetous of girls and women; covetous meaning "having or showing a great desire to possess something belonging to someone else." These men want to take not only things that are not theirs, but which actually belong to someone else - be it a woman's body in entirety or only aspects of it (breasts, face, hair and hairline; vagina, ovaries); experiences of "girlhood" they in their porn-soaked fantasies imagine to central to growing up female (constantly being told you're cute , wearing pretty clothes, going to all-girls sleepovers that feature sexy pillow fights, etc); or the state of "womanhood" as they define and imagine it.

And they particularly want to take these from girls and women they know and are intimate with - or whom they think they know intimately - coz that's who arouses their lust, envy, ire and covetousness the most. Boys with AGP and other sick fetishes about females, as Hannibal Lecter explained to Clarice Starling, covet what they see.

True, these guys can easily buy their own "ladies'" underwear and other attire quite easily and cheaply online or in a store, as you note. But doing so won't provide them quite the same level of "gender euphoria," their code for the erotic thrill, massive hard-on and orgasmic pleasure they get from this behavior.

To get the most "gender euphoria," they've gotta get off using items they've stolen or temporarily "borrowed" from girls or women they know or have seen in real life. Flesh-and-blood girls and women, not just the ones they see in porn, a clothing catalogue or modeling underwear on Amazon or another shopping site. And they have to commit the thefts and borrowings in secret, so the girls or women whose boundaries they're violating are unawares. Coz that's another feature of their fetish - the constant desire to hoodwink or put on over on girls and women again and again and again.

Then on those occasions when they get caught, they immediately gaslight and DARVO. The whole "trans rights" movement and gender ideology is one big gaslighting and DARVOing exercise.

[–]BEB 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

As others have noted, these men have a sexual fetish called autogynephilia.

We GC people need to talk to the general public about autogynephilia (!!!) because those are the men who want into women's spaces, almost all of them have intact genitalia and almost 66% are attracted to women (according to trans advocacy group the National Center for Transgender Rights)

These are the men who will do their utmost to humiliate us, flaunt their erections in our intimate spaces, steal our sanitary products, etc.

So, everyone, talk about autogynephilia every chance you get. These men are not harmless and they want to see us naked and cowed.

[–]our_team_is_winning 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

talk about autogynephilia every chance you get. These men are not harmless

Agreed 100% but I keep getting told "trans rights are human rights -- are you against human rights? They were born in the wrong body -- why can't you understand that? Name ONE transwoman who hurt a woman? Ok, so you can name ONE. Sometimes women attack other women too! You think no ciswoman [I HATE THAT WORD!!!!!] has ever beaten another woman up in the bathroom? I don't know any men like that -- probably only in big cities. Why are you so full of hate?" and crap like that.

It's like people have been pre-saturated with Trans Koolaid. Or I get "Oh I'm not worried about that. There's so few of them, it's hardly a pressing problem."

The women on this forum can't be the only ones who have seen the future of the Trans Takeover and are trying to push back? Or maybe we are :(

[–]BEB 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, there are tons of US men on rightwing forums who see clearly what a threat aggressive TiMs are to women, especially to women's sports. Most of these men are baffled as to why women aren't fighting back against trans activism.

But what I would do if I were you is have all the answers to those questions ready so that you can disarm trans activism supporters with facts.

I wonder if the mods would let us pin a fact sheet to the top of this sub, with answers to those comments you are getting?

[–]our_team_is_winning 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Good to know some right wing guys are aware of the TiM threat. Mostly I see men on the right (like they're a monolith, doubtful) saying crap about women's eggs being gone. If I see another empty egg carton meme I shall scream! So sick of finding internet discussions (by men) about "trad wives" and showing pix of young, flawless, Scandinavian maidens holding babies. And where are the young men that are so eager to marry and provide for a family? Playing video games, watching porn, warning each other "don't get married -- she'll divorce you and take your stuff!" Maybe I'm mixing the right with the manosphere.

I'm glad to hear they're not all this guy! (shudders) https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2019/12/10/stefan-molyneux-grossed-us-all-out-with-his-comments-on-taylor-swifts-eggs-but-hes-been-obsessed-with-ovulation-for-a-long-time/

[–]BEB 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are tons of right wing guys incredulous at the trans takeover on Breitbart and Twitter. It's not that they care so much about women, although some probably do, it's that they think the whole TiM thing getting into women's locker rooms and women's sports is a crazy scam.

[–]Killer_Danish 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's PC culture run amok. They don't want to make the same mistakes they made with the LGB in the past, so they're overcompensating by saying, "everything goes."

[–]BEB 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes: transgender activists are completely using LGB as both their sword and their shield. They did this deliberately - there's an interview w transgender activists in the NEW YORK TIMES from the 1990s in which they admit that they latched onto gay rights in order to take advantage of the larger groups numbers, growing acceptance and organization.

T would be nothing without LGB, but TQ+ are destroying LGB organizations and societal acceptance from within.

[–]our_team_is_winning 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I hear more and more people saying they hate and worse (violence, I won't say it) about LGBTQ and I keep trying to tell them TRANS is the problem here. LGB aren't trying to take anything from you.

Okay, many people are unhappy about "marriage" including same-sex, I get it, but if you feel that way, roll your eyes and move on.

The Trans movement is an anti-Reality movement and it physically endangers women and tries to force you to say things you don't believe. If a man is married to a man, I can say "his husband" because a male spouse is called a "husband." There are two husbands. I cannot look at a man in a wig and say "she" because he is not a woman. Homosexual people don't ask anyone to lie or indulge a sexual fetish.

But now all LGB are going to be dragged down as if they had anything to do with TQ+ And T calling themselves "gay" and "lesbian" to try to pair up with the opposite sex (!!! TiF seeking gay men -- because you are a straight female!) does not help.

[–]BEB 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think the backlash against LGB because of the demands of the TQ + is going to be bad, and that's very sad, because gay rights don't harm others rights, whereas trans demands do.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/caitlyn-jenner-at-chicago-house-event/62376/

[–]yousaythosethings 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

The downvotes are reassuring. I assume this is before the trans brigade came in to clear that up. This creep is 15. He's more than old enough to spend a few dollars on underwear. But I'm sure stealing the underwear owned and worn by actual women/girls is probably part of the fetish and oh so validating.

But unfortunately, this is reflective of why this whole gender bullshit is going to end terribly for gay people. We're now inextricably linked with this bullshit in the public's mind. "Gender play" or experimenting with sexuality do not allow anyone to over-ride another's boundaries, but that is exactly what the gender movement is about - shaming others for their boundaries and foisting the consequences on everyone else and for what? What greater purpose even? None. They won't even be honest about why they do it.

[–]BEB 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Isn't destroying boundaries the whole purpose of Queer Theory (honest question)?

[–]yousaythosethings 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Yes. But nothing about queer theory is innate to gay people. Being gay has no inherent relationship to any ideology. Queer theory is an ideology.

[–]BEB 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I agree completely. And from what I've read about Queer Theory it seems like "queering" the norm is one of the goals.

I just cannot understand how Queer Theory has taken such a firm hold on so many otherwise intelligent people all around the world...

[–]yousaythosethings 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I don't think most people know what Queer Theory is. Even gay people. They can't see the bigger picture. They also can't see the change in the leadership and policies of the organizations that they credit with getting them important rights like the right to marry. They are also reluctant to judge others as they (and to a lesser extent myself) have been judged.

[–]BEB 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I think lesbians, because of the creepy TiMs on dating apps, are more aware than gay men but still many aren't inclined to judge trans, partially because many are young, so indoctrinated, partially because they've been judged themselves.

But I agree - only a fraction of people, including gay people, who support trans demands, have any idea about Queer Theory or what the true sinister and incredibly destructive goals of Trans, Inc., are. I don't know for sure what they are, all I know is that they are destroying science, free speech, women/gay/parents rights, and children's health.

[–]yousaythosethings 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I will also mention that the trans-identified males flooding lesbian apps is also a relatively recent thing in terms of volume and escalation, so anyone who's been partnered up during this time or who doesn't rely on apps is ignorant of that happening, though men invading is not new. A lot of lesbians spend very little time single though so in such case they are avoiding the full brunt of it and are just ignoring it.

[–]BEB 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes, many of my older lesbian friends could not believe the "Cotton Ceiling" etc., existed. They were stunned that young lesbians are being asked to consider dick.

[–]Eurowoman24 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

people are seriously brainwashed, lesbians not considering dick means you're invalidating them as women. Still can't believe that's actually a thing.

[–]BEB 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Apparently, lesbians have been dealing with transbians demanding they sleep with them for years now. Such a shame that younger lesbians often feel they have to. This needs to stop. Older LGB need to step in now to protect young lesbians.

[–]peaked2020 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not even asked... demanded. If vagina is ever mentioned without an their penis, they all correct and harass the offender.

[–]BEB 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So crazy. Again, older LGB people need to step up NOW and protect young lesbians from transbian predators!

[–]Eurowoman24 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is actually so gross and I'm sorry your community is getting mixed up in this.

[–]diapason 16 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Ewwwwwwwww.

If you don't want your parents to know you stole your sister's panties to wank in, then maybe don't wank in your sister's panties! Fucking hell 🙄

I'd bet twenty bucks that every commenter defending him isn't allowed within 500 ft of a school

[–]BiologyIsReal 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know how they can claim AGP isn't real, but this kind of behaviour is perfectly normal with a straigh face.

[–]Eurowoman24 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's 1000% real I remember a post on reddit from an AGP in australia who realized he had AGP and stopped himself from transitioning and is getting help. That bloke was horrified at what was happening in the name of "woke"

[–]peaked2020 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is far from the only post along these lines I’ve seen on that subreddit. Once the trans brigade begins, the mods normally shut down the thread and delete it.

[–]hmimperialtortie 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

“AGP is just being a trans woman.”

We know, dude. We know.

[–]macaron 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

They need Japan's used underwear vending machines. :P